you ALL need a discover pass for ALL DNR land.

[nocklehead]

Wanna go hunting?
When your kids ask why you need this new pass to hunt where you always have say, "it helps maintain the land and protect our freedoms".

Wanna take an airplane to grandmas house for christmas? When your kid asks why you allowed them to be photographed naked, radiated, and then touched in thier genitals by a cross-eyed stranger, say "it helps maintain our country and protect our freedom".

Hey atleast we dont fill the check out DIRECTLY to Goldman Sachs or the IMF....not YET!!!

[BENCHLEG]

hell, they don't enforce the national forest passes after september. what makes you think they will enforce this in klickitat county . up around adams during rifle season  verry few have passes and no tickets. i hope they do it now im tired of playing by the rules, so others get a free ride.

[logger]

I don't play by the rules, the forest service can kiss my ass more than the state. I pay and pay and I'm done payin

[BENCHLEG]

  im at that point also.

[CP]

We should have a prize for the first person to be cited for not having a discover pass.

If we all ignore it maybe it will go the way of the Federal boat sticker that they came out with many seasons ago.

[Special T]

What was the story on the FED boat sticker? never heard of it...

[CP]

What was the story on the FED boat sticker? never heard of it...

It was repealed after a lot of public outrage.  Here’s an old Seattle PI article on it:

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19910710&slug=1293708

[Little Dave]

My wife isn't really enthusiastic about the pass.  She thought she was coverered by the complimentary parking pass that came with our son's hunting license.  I explained how this works.  I think that I have pretty much convinced her of the urgency to throw out of office the people that came up with this concept and how easily these shallow and apparently stupid people might damage any other aspect of our life or liberty by their inability or negligence.

If the state has more properties than it can afford to manage, it should sell them.   Let somebody else manage them and provide a valuation that reflects loss of use because of regulations... or keep them, put them back into production and capture royalties from the sustainable use of the land, create jobs.

The state should measure success by fostering the creation of natural resource jobs and eliminating taxes rather than eliminating natural resource jobs and creating new taxes with much celebration and self-congratulation.

[danderson]

Im so confused, let me see, I need a northwest forest pass for parking at trailheads, a car parking permit to park at wdfw boat launches,  a snow park permit for parking at snow parks, and now a discover pass to drive on DNR land, how are all these permits fees going to help pay for anything, the cost of enforcment will exceed income.

[ICEMAN]

Im so confused, let me see, I need a northwest forest pass for parking at trailheads, a car parking permit to park at wdfw boat launches,  a snow park permit for parking at snow parks, and now a discover pass to drive on DNR land, how are all these permits fees going to help pay for anything, the cost of enforcment will exceed income.

It doesn't sound like you are confused to me....  Aggravating isn't it?

[fireweed]

This whole Discover Pass is a scheme to fund STATE PARKS, not the DNR or WDFW.  They just gets scraps.  The bloated state parks system wants to protect their micromanagement and park ranger jobs.  If some state park land was transferred to the WDFW or counties or DNR that's fine with me.  Get this.  There was an amendment to the bill that would ALLOW volunteers to do essential activities in state parks and it FAILED! They aren't really concerned about keeping parks open, they are concerned about their cushy government job.  The day users and tourists that use state parks on a drive-by basis will never pay $10 per day (which is twice the price of other states like Oregon).  That leaves only the hard-core park users and the folks (like us) who used DNR to pay to support day trippers in state parks.  Do state parks really need their own law enforcement "ranger" for a 100-acre park???  Look at the USFS.  They have huge acerage with dozens of parks and a handfull of Law Enforcement officers.  Or the countless rural communities with no town clown.  They call the sherriff.   :bash:The the world still turns.

[d-rock]

If it was anything more than a money grab they would say OK here is the Discover Pass.  All other passes will go away.  This is to SIMPLIFY things and reduce all the confusion.  Hunters and Fishermen will have a reduction in their License fees (as they no longer need their parking permits) and the guys who hike and snowmobile and ORV throughout the year won't have to pay for each season that they are using State (PUBLIC....) land to play on.

BUT it's not.  It's another way to confuse and regulate and make extra money that is going...well nowhere, just seems to vanish.  It's a scam and people will either take it or not.  Just imagine how many more of the asinine things will be around in another 20 years.  How many were here 20 years ago?  Breathing Public Air Pass here we come.

[Sumpnneedskillin]

If it was anything more than a money grab they would say OK here is the Discover Pass.  All other passes will go away.  This is to SIMPLIFY things and reduce all the confusion.  Hunters and Fishermen will have a reduction in their License fees (as they no longer need their parking permits) and the guys who hike and snowmobile and ORV throughout the year won't have to pay for each season that they are using State (PUBLIC....) land to play on.

BUT it's not.  It's another way to confuse and regulate and make extra money that is going...well nowhere, just seems to vanish.  It's a scam and people will either take it or not.  Just imagine how many more of the asinine things will be around in another 20 years.  How many were here 20 years ago?  Breathing Public Air Pass here we come.

Pay up you owe $20 for a b%^ and whine pass. 

Look a Demolition man and the automatic tickets.  We all laughed and thought it was rediculous.

[nocklehead]

  Breathing Public Air Pass here we come.

Oh, you mean carbon taxes? Oxygen is free, exhaling it now theres an issue. 

[Little Dave]

Hmm...  this comes to mind.

Tim Hawkins - The Government Can