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Offline Kain

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Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy (Links to report added)
« on: June 01, 2011, 05:10:45 PM »
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 05:42:10 PM »
You guys are gonna have to excuse my french on this one   :o

THATS ALOTTA FAWKING MOOLA!!!  WOW!!!
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 10:24:52 PM »
Interesting read. Makes you wonder even more why sportsman are dinged so much all the time.
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 10:30:50 PM »
How do they come up with $1.5 billion and 26,000 jobs for wildlife watching?  Is there a wildlife watching license I don't know about? 
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 08:25:47 AM »
I got a bad attitude on this but I call BS.

They have screwed with the numbers to make hunting look not as attractive.  The bird watching BS is a prime example.  I don't think anyone spends more money on the outdoors than hunters.  Gas, food, camping gear, binos....hell, everything those others guys carry as well as a tag, rifle, knife, rangefinder etc.  We travel farther, fill up more hotels.......

BS, BS, BS
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 08:41:29 AM »
Quote from: Gringo31 on June 02, 2011, 08:25:47 AM
I got a bad attitude on this but I call BS.

They have screwed with the numbers to make hunting look not as attractive.  The bird watching BS is a prime example.  I don't think anyone spends more money on the outdoors than hunters.  Gas, food, camping gear, binos....hell, everything those others guys carry as well as a tag, rifle, knife, rangefinder etc.  We travel farther, fill up more hotels.......

BS, BS, BS

 :yeah:

I'm taking a wild guess here but they must be taking wildlife protection and habitat away from us hunters and grouping it in with the bird watchers...there's just no other way that I can think of that they create that much revenue  :dunno:
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 08:46:56 AM »
well,  we all buy binos, right?  i bet they classify that as wildlife wiewing.  heck they probably even clasify rifle scopes as wildlife viewing.  all camping gear is most likely classified as wildlife viewing. any money we spend outside of hunting season. (scouting) is probably classified as wildlife viewing.  how much people will be buyinh the discover cards this year?  i bet all the money spent on the dicover pass will be classified as wildife viewers.  :bash:
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 08:57:17 AM »
Scouting for hunting areas during the summer I'm guessing wouldn't be classified as hunting either.
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 09:38:15 AM »
problems with reports like this one, its the interpretation of the data importer on what goes to what. binos goto bird watchers, land access off hunting season goes to hikers and such. Anyone could do this and come up with way different numbers. Also does it take into account for internet sales? I am not ashamed to admit hunting is a expensive passion so if I can save a few bucks online or ebay I do it. really doubt i am the only one who does.
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2011, 10:17:46 AM »
You are right!

My issue is that I believe the pressure is to get rid of true management and hunting in general.  I believe we are seeing the process of limiting public ground, jacking up prices, and coming up with BS data that proves that it just isn't worth it.   
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2011, 10:38:30 AM »
Thanks for posting that. This is definitely an outrage and obviously an incorrect interpretation of the data. If they were to make hunting illegal for one year I am sure they would find the economic loss is much larger than $313 million
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 01:04:23 PM »
Did you answer 'yes' to the "while afield hunting this year, did you enjoy seeing any non target species?" question?

If so, you and your hunting expenditures were counted on the "wildlife watcher" side of the ledger. 

Of course here in WA we have to be used to watching animals we used to be able to pull triggers on....spring bears, non-'true spikes', branch antlered bulls, spike and fork mule deer, sub 4 pt whitetails, etc etc.

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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2011, 01:55:38 PM »
 :yike:

Well, gents...you have just supplied me with my next GUN RIGHTS EXAMINER column.

2 years ago.. I watched this 5-point bull through my binoculars walking through my camp on the LT Murray.  That qualifies me as a "wildlife watcher," which is exactly what the frigging Department of NO Fish and NO (Harvestable) Wildlife wants us to become.

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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2011, 02:07:25 PM »
As soon as I'm able to retire I'm moving out of this state so I don't have to pay attention to the crap that the Dept of NO Fish and No Wildlife keeps trying to feed us.
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Re: Fish, wildlife and Washington’s economy...told ya.
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2011, 04:08:50 PM »
Hunting $313 million 5,595 jobs
Sport Fishing $1.1 billion 14,655 jobs
Wildlife Watching $1.5 billion 26,000 jobs

Gee...watching wildlife brings in more revenue and creates more jobs than hunting and fishing combined.  If that's the case how come we are yet to see...Wholesale Watchers, Cabelas Light, or any form of Tweety Bird Retail stores.

They must really think we fell off the hay wagon.  Total B.S.
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