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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2011, 07:47:55 AM »
Really dumb.

He does have a strong defense. In 2008, there were no wolves in that county. The WDFW told us so. "Gee, officer, I thought I was just mailing a coyote to friends".
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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2011, 07:53:42 AM »
The saddest part in my book is that the father was an actual hunter education instructor. 

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2011, 08:01:06 AM »
I say that we wait to see the court outcome before we jump ship on these guys.  I don't condone any actions, but I do believe ionnocent until proven guilty. :twocents:

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2011, 08:16:30 AM »
I say that we wait to see the court outcome before we jump ship on these guys.  I don't condone any actions, but I do believe ionnocent until proven guilty. :twocents:
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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2011, 08:26:06 AM »
Really dumb.

He does have a strong defense. In 2008, there were no wolves in that county. The WDFW told us so. "Gee, officer, I thought I was just mailing a coyote to friends".
That's not true-  I'm not sure how that argument keeps popping up.  I'm not sure what his defense is going to be.  It sounds like they pretty well have him nailed.

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2011, 08:30:24 AM »
Here is a link to a pretty well written story from the Northwest Sportsman. They mention that there are some increased fines for other "egrarious" harvest of deer and elk. It seems that the alleged activities included more than just killing wolves.

http://www.nwsportsmanmag.com/articles/2011/06/08/Twisp+Family+Shot+5+Wolves%2C+Tried+To+Poison+More%2C+Feds+Say/


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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2011, 09:17:31 AM »
Informative article.  Thanks for posting.

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2011, 10:05:03 AM »
I thought it was "a really big coyote..."

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2011, 10:42:41 AM »
Really dumb.

He does have a strong defense. In 2008, there were no wolves in that county. The WDFW told us so. "Gee, officer, I thought I was just mailing a coyote to friends".
That's not true-  I'm not sure how that argument keeps popping up.  I'm not sure what his defense is going to be.  It sounds like they pretty well have him nailed.

I was not being serious. This guy obviously is an idiot for doing what he did.
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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2011, 11:08:44 AM »
Just wait, more and more wolves coming.

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2011, 11:12:33 AM »
i do have a question, a serious one, :chuckle: If the state claims that they havent re-introduced wolves to washington state, doesnt that make them a non indigenous animal and can be shot year around, i know of a place that has a few wild fallow deer runnin around and we can shoot them anytime of the year, i know its still illegal to kill wolves in this state but doesnt that rule open alot for interpretation for a defense, i dont really care if the guy shot the wolves, i think he is an idiot for going about it the way he did so his dumb arse is gonna pay the penalty BIG TIME...... :dunno:
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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2011, 11:27:32 AM »
i do have a question, a serious one, :chuckle: If the state claims that they havent re-introduced wolves to washington state, doesnt that make them a non indigenous animal and can be shot year around, i know of a place that has a few wild fallow deer runnin around and we can shoot them anytime of the year, i know its still illegal to kill wolves in this state but doesnt that rule open alot for interpretation for a defense

There are actual definitions of invasive/deleterious wildlife in this state. For example Antelope is not one of those species and is actually considered big game.

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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2011, 11:30:59 AM »
while i think mailing the wolf to Canada was a dumb thing to do i feel bad for the guy. it says he was a rancher, so i wonder how many cattle he has and if he lost any from wolves. i know what the feds, yes feds not state, can and will do. that guy has lost all his rights since getting caught, and for what shooting wolf. really irritates me that killing a lousy critter that shouldn't be here in the first place can give the government the right to do whatever they want to you and your family.... it isn't right


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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2011, 11:58:33 AM »
while i think mailing the wolf to Canada was a dumb thing to do i feel bad for the guy. it says he was a rancher, so i wonder how many cattle he has and if he lost any from wolves. i know what the feds, yes feds not state, can and will do. that guy has lost all his rights since getting caught, and for what shooting wolf. really irritates me that killing a lousy critter that shouldn't be here in the first place can give the government the right to do whatever they want to you and your family.... it isn't right
i have to agree houndhunter, i didnt hear that part so if your heard of cattle is being attacked then it is still illegal to kill them, that is B.S, what the hell, you can kill a man for luting during certain times but you cant kill a damn wolf for hurtn your lively hoo, does this seem odd to anyone else?
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Re: twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2011, 12:07:17 PM »
exactly. as the law is now you cannot kill a wolf, even if its in the act of, for killing your livestock. the only legal way to kill a wolf is if it attacks you and you need proof that the animal tried to harm you, bite marks ect..... its really a unfair deal. i know a friend personally who lost a hound to wolves in twisp and know their are home owners who have lost pets to the look out pack right near the town of twisp. whats a guy suppose to do?

 


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