Dangerous Precedent- DNR Gives Gate Keys To Tribes for Bear Hunting, What's Next

[PlateauNDN]

Sorry Coastal this was another case of misinterpretation.  I was referring to the threads in Dec. Regarding Yakama members caught Poaching in the Nile and the Yakama and Colville members caught poaching in the Wenas.  Both those threads had Yakama (I'm assuming) members posting negative comments and making borderline racial comments on here.  I did not refer to you Coastal or Big Dog in my earlier posts and if I did, I would've just said your name or somebody else's directly.  I read the posts with my own eyes and they weren't posted by either one of you 2.  I followed these threads all the way to the end and then finally started posting after the dust settled.  As I stated many times before I'm not here to threaten, discriminate or name call anybody.  I'm here for the enjoyment of hunting and if called upon provide information regarding Tribal issues.  I never expected to agree with anybody on here 100% whether they were Tribal members or not.  We may be Tribal members but we're gonna have disagreements and our opinions regardless of ethnic background and Tribal Affiliation.  I'm assuming that your definition of me being a "splitter" is separatist?  I encourage you to read all my posts on this thread and other recent threads regarding Tribal issues and not once did I ever give the impression nor present myself as being a separatist or biased.  As far as the "Tribal Hunting" issue you're referring to was not about what you're thinking.  To inform you about my request to the Site Moderators was about creating a topic possibly called "Tribal Issues" or something related.  A place where forum members could go to ask or post questions regarding "Tribal Issues."  If there was a bit of confusion on your part about me then I hope you got a better understanding about me from this if not then again I encourage you to read this whole thread and if that still does not suffice then PM me and I can give you some insight into my background just as I provided to the Site Moderators upon request.  I don't have nothing to hide.

[Special T]

Lets think about the headbutting with tribes. The tribes have gotten frustrated with whom? WDFW... Who have we been frustrated with? WDFW... The our only real representative with the tribes has been the WDFW... If the WDFW isn't working with the tribes, DNR or us, who is the source of the problem? The yakimas seem to to interested in working with SCI, the Antelope project... Maybe tribes just need a different kind of partner than our glorious WDFW?  Take for example the Clockum herd... I had heard that the Yakimas started hunting it in response to the WDFW opening a traditional hunting area of the yakimas.. So hunting the clockum was a response to the WDFW more than anything else...

[boneaddict]

Doesn't matter what race, or people it is.  Its like the candy dish left on the porch for Halloween kids.  Please take one.   How many kids took one, how many took two, how many emptied it into their bag (because they could) and moved on to the next bowl. 


Has nothing to do with locked gates (or does it)
Speaking of an old racist or unpolitically correct saying.    "Too many Chiefs..."   You find that its accurate that if there are too many in charge of one thing, nothing productive gets done. 

[boneaddict]

and....no problems Plateau.   We already have plenty of common ground.  Would love to do it sometime.

[furbearer365]

 My patience with tribes getting anything EXTRA that the average person cant is making me about as impatient as can be.  Between the tribes and the wolves, i dont know what will end hunting faster.  We the people of wasington state, and not a member of any tribe, should be able to protect state lands from all tribal members as they protect theirs from us.  ENOUGH

[Special T]

wolves will end it much quicker...

[GlennGTR]

Poaching, dumping and drugs, thats what you will end up with.

[The100Road]

 

[dreamunelk]

I am missing something.  Had anyone confirmed this with DNR?  How is the WDFW at fault?  Why is this now a tribal bashing thread?

[pianoman9701]

I am missing something.  Had anyone confirmed this with DNR?  How is the WDFW at fault?  Why is this now a tribal bashing thread?

Not sure why any thread turns into tribal bashing, but lots of them do.

It's my understanding that the bear damage was brought to DFW and they didn't do anything about it/dropped the ball. DNR stepped in and took the path of least resistance and opened the damage areas up to tribal hunters who could use hounds and bait to decrease the bears and the damage. I may not have all my facts straight, but that's been the gist of this thread.

[bearpaw]

I was asked to make this topic known by someone who wishes to remain anonymous. I did not intend for it to becom a tribal bashing thread. I myself thought the concern should be that equal opportunity is not being provided to all. I honestly do not blame the tribe for taking the keys, anyone would take them if they were offered.

[Wenatcheejay]

I was asked to make this topic known by someone who wishes to remain anonymous. I did not intend for it to becom a tribal bashing thread. I myself thought the concern should be that equal opportunity is not being provided to all. I honestly do not blame the tribe for taking the keys, anyone would take them if they were offered.

There is no bashing when any group is given this type of access. It is perfectly acceptable to point out behavior that goes against DNR policy. It is just that the tribe was given special exclusive access that goes above and beyond any treaty. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. There is nothing wrong with stating that FACT.

And YES I contacted Officials and YES this is against DNR policy and NO it does not appear it came from DNR Headquarters. DNR claims to be investigating. And, YES once again WDFW is silent and does not have the General Hunting populations back. I will not post another Representative's response in the same one that addresses "bashing." There is NO bashing to expect our Government bureaucrats to follow their own policy, to hold them to it. As a good citizen it is our job to make sure our own Government follows law and policy. I have stated in previous comments that the Tribe in this instance did nothing wrong, DNR did.

Good job Dale in allowing us to speak out when wrong is being done. To bow down or silence anyone for showing our Government for going against it's own policy, against it's word, if anyone should have our back on that it is should be the Tribes.

[Wenatcheejay]

Here is another State Representative (Mike Armstrong) who wrote this in response to my letter.

Dear Jayson,

I know exactly what you mean and share your feelings.  I appreciate you contacting me on this issue.

I have heard of the gated access for tribal hunting and I know two Representatives that have drafted a series of questions to DNR on the matter. I ask staff to contact DNR and they told him what happened with the regional manager to allow access for the Muckleshoot tribe was done without the knowledge of headquarters here in Olympia. Still, the tribe has access at this time to a couple of DNR's tracts of land (gated access) and DNR headquarters is trying to get a handle on the matter. DNR says they are investigating it. I have ask that they keep me informed.

Keep in touch,

Mike

[bearpaw]

Good job Jayson, this is exactly how you get things changed for the better.

[The100Road]