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Offline Bob33

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2011, 07:35:28 AM »
A great place to ask
No
Not anymore
You are begging to get robbed, locks keep the mostly honest: honest
If you are out hiking or engaging in some other lawful outdoor activity etc you don't need a permit to carry concealed or otherwise
It's like a seatbelt, I haven't needed one of those for quite a long time either but I wear it every time I get in a car.
When I went to the police station to get a permit, I asked about carrying while hiking. I specifically asked about carrying in a backpack and was told by the officer that if I did that, I would need a permit.
He gave you incorrect informaton.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2011, 07:49:22 AM »
A great place to ask
No
Not anymore
You are begging to get robbed, locks keep the mostly honest: honest
If you are out hiking or engaging in some other lawful outdoor activity etc you don't need a permit to carry concealed or otherwise
It's like a seatbelt, I haven't needed one of those for quite a long time either but I wear it every time I get in a car.
When I went to the police station to get a permit, I asked about carrying while hiking. I specifically asked about carrying in a backpack and was told by the officer that if I did that, I would need a permit.

Never trust a cop giving "legal" advice.  Section 8 here applies.  This is a list of exceptions to needing a license to carry concealed, under 9.41.050.  When people go to court, they hire attorneys, not cops, to represent them because cops tend to give "legal" advise that makes their life easier, or what they've learned on the streets, which isn't always correct.

Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.
   


     *** CHANGE IN 2011 *** (SEE 1041-S.SL) ***

The provisions of RCW 9.41.050 shall not apply to:

     (1) Marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens or their deputies, or other law enforcement officers of this state or another state;

     (2) Members of the armed forces of the United States or of the national guard or organized reserves, when on duty;

     (3) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed pistol;

     (4) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of the person, if possessing, using, or carrying a pistol in the usual or ordinary course of the business;

     (5) Regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive pistols from the United States or from this state;

     (6) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of target shooting, when those members are at or are going to or from their places of target practice;

     (7) Regularly enrolled members of clubs organized for the purpose of modern and antique firearm collecting, when those members are at or are going to or from their collector's gun shows and exhibits;

     (8.) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

     (9) Any person while carrying a pistol unloaded and in a closed opaque case or secure wrapper; or

     (10) Law enforcement officers retired for service or physical disabilities, except for those law enforcement officers retired because of mental or stress-related disabilities. This subsection applies only to a retired officer who has: (a) Obtained documentation from a law enforcement agency within Washington state from which he or she retired that is signed by the agency's chief law enforcement officer and that states that the retired officer was retired for service or physical disability; and (b) not been convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity of a crime making him or her ineligible for a concealed pistol license.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2011, 08:38:58 AM »
If you carry a loaded pistol in your back pack, i believe you would be in violation whether you had a permit or not.  Just like if you have a loaded pistol in your car and it is not on your person when you are in the car(can not be tucked between your leg and seat), you would be in violation.  Besides it don't do any good in your back pack if you need it.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2011, 08:48:06 AM »
I know of a few people who have gotten a ticket for carrying concealed while hunting with no permit.  That being said it sounds like it is legal to do so from the verbage you have provided. Personally I have been stopped/talked by many sheriffs from many counties and none have ever asked to see my conceal permit even when it is obvious I am carrying. This doesn't prove anything either way, Just want to put this out there.

My  :twocents: get the permit its not expensive and will save you the hassle, its great to ask for opinions on a board like this but make sure to always seek professional advice when something is of importance.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2011, 08:50:42 AM »
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Exceptions to restrictions on carrying firearms.

[quote](8.) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;
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Assuming you're not walking down Main Street USA carrying a loaded pistol in your pack and you are actually hiking, hunting, fishing, etc as mentioned above, it sure sounds legal to me to carry without a permit.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2011, 09:04:16 AM »
If you carry a loaded pistol in your back pack, i believe you would be in violation whether you had a permit or not.


Not if you're "engaged in a lawful recreational activity."

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2011, 12:40:47 PM »
I carry almost everywhere except when at work (company rules) even at home my handgun is nearby if not on my hip.
I live in a great neighborhood (well, as good as it gets on the wet side), LOL
I carry because I like to be prepared, and the police and Sheriff can only react after a situation. I have to be able to react during the situation.
Besides most of the Sheriff's Deputies here are to big to fit on my hip  :dunno: .
I would encourage everyone to obtain their CPL. Even if you do not wish to carry, or carry often. Numbers matter, I guarantee if 90% of this state had a CPL, no law restricting ownership rights would ever be written or become law.
 
The most important reason I carry,  it is the only right we have that "ensures" we keep all the others. I firmly believe if we do not use it we will loose it.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2011, 01:05:30 PM »
Here's another way to look at this.  About one in four Americans own at least one gun.  It is very similar to the number of people that regularly vote.

So as you are going down the road, watch out for the three out of four and wear a seatbelt.  :chuckle:

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2011, 01:23:00 PM »
Thoughts on carrying.....
 
 I don't carry a gun to kill people.
 I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
 
 I don't carry a gun to scare people.
 I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary 
 place.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid.
 I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I'm evil.
 I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil
 in the world.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I hate the government.
 I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of
 government.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
 I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life
 hating myself for failing to be prepared.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
 I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed,
 and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
 I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to
 be a cowboy.
 
 I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man.
 I carry a gun because men know how to take care of
 themselves and the ones they love.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
 I carry a gun because being unarmed and facing three armed
 thugs, I am inadequate.
 
 I don't carry a gun because I love it.
 I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it
 meaningful to me.
 
 Police Protection is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect
 themselves.
 Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.
 
 Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too
 old to take an ass kickin'.
 
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 matter....don't mind...And those that mind....don't matter
« Last Edit: June 20, 2011, 01:34:24 PM by dawei »
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 10:54:39 AM »
I don't carry all of the time, but when I go to certain areas I definitely do.  Example: Yesterday, while I was on duty, a man was walking down the street in broad daylight.  A scumbag came up to him, punched him without warning and then stabbed him in the neck.  Apparently, it was a robbery attempt.  He was very lucky that the blade missed the important stuff.  I know that bad stuff can happen anywhere, but the odds are greater in some neighborhoods.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2011, 11:29:53 AM »
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.  :chuckle:

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2011, 11:34:53 AM »
I just got a carry permit and now carry a lot. The bank where I go to do the company's banking has been robbed twice. Vancouver is basically a bedroom community to Portland and we have all types of people, scumsuckers included. I don't hope to use it, but I'm really glad i have it.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2011, 11:39:21 AM »
This may not be the place to ask, but I read about many who regularly carry every day.
Do those that carry live in dangerous places? Have dangerous jobs?
I don't think I have locked my car or house for 50 years.
I have a carry permit for hiking to protect the dog.
Just wondering.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2011, 11:51:40 AM »
You can carry wherever you want without a permit as long as its not concealed.  Minus bars, courthouse, national parks, etc.  Washington is an open carry state.  If your gonna conceal it though you have to a have a permit.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2011, 11:53:08 AM »
I live in Spanaway, and you never know when I'm carrying..I started carrying again after 4 Lakewood Police Officers were murdered,  and an armored car employee was murdered..5 deaths from worthless piles of crap. I don't live in a "BAD" area, but as I have told more than one cop,,,I will always have your backs..

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