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Re: carry permits
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2011, 11:54:16 AM »
You can carry wherever you want without a permit as long as its not concealed.  Minus bars, courthouse, national parks, etc.  Washington is an open carry state.  If your gonna conceal it though you have to a have a permit.

SORRY,  I MENT TO SAY YOU CAN CARRY CONCEALED WHILE DOING THOSE ACTIVITIES

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2011, 12:52:26 PM »
You can carry wherever you want without a permit as long as its not concealed.  Minus bars, courthouse, national parks, etc.  Washington is an open carry state.  If your gonna conceal it though you have to a have a permit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35484383/ns/us_news-life/t/new-law-allows-loaded-guns-national-parks/

Loaded guns will be allowed in Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon and other national parks under a new law that takes effect Monday.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.060

(8) Any person engaging in a lawful outdoor recreational activity such as hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, or horseback riding, only if, considering all of the attendant circumstances, including but not limited to whether the person has a valid hunting or fishing license, it is reasonable to conclude that the person is participating in lawful outdoor activities or is traveling to or from a legitimate outdoor recreation area;

No need for a concealed permit when hiking, fishing, hunting etc.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2011, 12:53:43 PM »
Thanks for the update FC!

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2011, 01:04:02 PM »
I don't know how true it is but I was told there is a violent crime every 10 seconds in America.  So sooner or later something going to happen that's why I carry.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2011, 10:38:11 AM »
I carry everyday, everywhere I go, cops are to heavy and I cant throw a rock 1000fps.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2011, 10:47:15 AM »
There are almost 400,000 violent crimes in America every year. If you break that down per state, per day, that's about 20 in your state, today. A lot of it is concentrated in certain 'hoods but you plain have your head buried in the sand if you think that crime knows boundaries.

I carry 98% of the time i leave my house. Going for a run is about the only time it is impractical, though I used to go running in college with a gun due to country/farm dogs.

Be careful with open carry. When I left WA a few years ago I knew of no statute specifically authorizing open carry. The problem you can run into is that someone can always call 911 and say you're brandishing a firearm or trying to intimidate and if a liberal cop responds he may be more sympathetic to the caller than to you, even if you were minding your own business.

Tactically speaking its usually better for your firearm to be concealed. This is often the case even though it takes you an extra step to present it to the threat. I open carry in the woods because the animals wont know the difference. I can respect the position of those who like to open carry to make a political statement--but I choose to do other things with my time.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2011, 11:28:57 AM »
Be careful with open carry. When I left WA a few years ago I knew of no statute specifically authorizing open carry. The problem you can run into is that someone can always call 911 and say you're brandishing a firearm or trying to intimidate and if a liberal cop responds he may be more sympathetic to the caller than to you, even if you were minding your own business.

There is no statute that allows open carry, because washington state is "If it's not specifically illegal by law, then it's legal".  There is no RCW that makes open carry illegal, hence it's legal.  There is some wording in an RCW that can make it a slightly gray area;

RCW 9.41.270
Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm — Unlawful carrying or handling — Penalty — Exceptions. 

(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry, exhibit, display, or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons.

A couple of guys have been rung up by this, but others have successfully fought it.  It all depends on how much of a dick that you, the cop and the prosecutor want to be! Both parts highlighted have to be true, not just the first.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2011, 12:58:46 PM »
If you carry a loaded pistol in your back pack, i believe you would be in violation whether you had a permit or not.  Just like if you have a loaded pistol in your car and it is not on your person when you are in the car(can not be tucked between your leg and seat), you would be in violation.  Besides it don't do any good in your back pack if you need it.
 

That is untrue. It does not have to be "on your person". It can be under your seat, or on the seat next to you, or in the glove box. You can carry it in your backpack, or purse, or fanny pack. There is a lot of misinformation on concealed carry out there. Believe it or not, Washington is one of the most lax states concerning concealed carry. Don't ask a cop, they have no idea what the laws actually are.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2011, 01:08:13 PM »
You should read RCW 9.41.050

     (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2011, 01:19:48 PM »
You should read RCW 9.41.050

     (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

It says (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there,
That is not restricted to "on your person".

It is an acceptable condition like (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person,

As long as you meet an acceptable condition you are within the law. You don't have to meet them all simultaneously, ie; on your person, in the vehicle that is locked.
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2011, 01:32:14 PM »
"Don't ask a cop, they have no idea what the laws actually are."

Wow 7 Mag!!!!  Your right we just do a lot of guess work in this business!  Thats sarcasm and I'm hoping that was some sarcasm from you because if that was the case and making all these unlawful arrests I'd probably lose my job real quick!  On the upside, 7 Mag is correct in his responses!  Quit poppin off, we don't need anymore booger eaters on this site!

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2011, 01:43:27 PM »
"Don't ask a cop, they have no idea what the laws actually are."

Swatson this has been my experience as well. I have had some pretty crazy advice given to me by cops and you yourself gave some incorrect info earlier in this thread  :twocents:
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2011, 01:45:12 PM »
Swatson, I have a question that you might be able to clarify for me. I have seen some ingenious handgun mounting options on a couple of the CPL and Handgun forums,  It would be nice to be able to remove my handgun from my IWB holster, and place it in a mounted holster with easy access when driving? I use a safe with a cable attached when not wearing it now, but I would really like to just mount an extra holster within reach.
 
I was confused if it was "legal" in Washington
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Re: carry permits
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2011, 01:45:18 PM »
Do those that carry live in dangerous places? Have dangerous jobs?

Nope(I don't) and Nope

reason??
Like the old saying goes...

I would rather have it and not need it, then to not have it and need it

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Re: carry permits
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2011, 01:47:36 PM »
"Don't ask a cop, they have no idea what the laws actually are."

Swatson this has been my experience as well. I have had some pretty crazy advice given to me by cops and you yourself gave some incorrect info earlier in this thread  :twocents:

Nope, just went and reread what I told you and that is correct.  Please explain.

 


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