carry permits

[FC]

You can carry wherever you want without a permit as long as its not concealed.  Minus bars, courthouse, national parks, etc.  Washington is an open carry state.  If your gonna conceal it though you have to a have a permit.

Here ya go Swatson, if you want to get into it over this...You can get mad all you want but it is legal to carry concealed or open while hiking, hunting, fishing etc or traveling to/from such or any other lawful outdoor activities. It is also legal to do so in National Parks!

I've had so much BS fobbed off as law by cops to me that it isn't even funny, I am not going to get into a debate over this but your "booger eater" comments are going a little far and most folks know the actual truth of this matter.

[Swatson]

Swatson, I have a question that you might be able to clarify for me. I have seen some ingenious handgun mounting options on a couple of the CPL and Handgun forums,  It would be nice to be able to remove my handgun from my IWB holster, and place it in a mounted holster with easy access when driving? I use a safe with a cable attached when not wearing it now, but I would really like to just mount an extra holster within reach.
 
I was confused if it was "legal" in Washington

As long as you have CPL.  I actually know someone that has mounted something similar on the right side of their steering wheel under the dash.  He was also himmed up by a rookie right out of the academy during a traffic stop until a senior Officer arrived and straightened things out.  Obviously this is a very complicated law and no matter how much they teach and pound these laws into the recruits at the academy there still gonna come out a little confused sometimes.  I would say that most cops are squared away on the gun laws and if they aren't or are in some doubt they will or at least should make damn sure before issuing a citation or hooking someone up.

[MikeWalking]

I've had a few 'officials' on the other side of the counter give their own views & opinions as law too.

Getting the right to carry in NP's was a big one....  I always did anyway

[Special T]

Your always doing something illegal! Either the cops choose not to enforce it, don't know the law, or there is some "other" enforcement agency that is suposed to come after you...
I have had many a conversation with a LEO about BS small infractions... They are used as a "Tool" so that they have probable cause to question you... Not to mention if you fail the "Attitude test" that tool becomes an infraction.

[Swatson]

You can carry wherever you want without a permit as long as its not concealed.  Minus bars, courthouse, national parks, etc.  Washington is an open carry state.  If your gonna conceal it though you have to a have a permit.

Here ya go Swatson, if you want to get into it over this...You can get mad all you want but it is legal to carry concealed or open while hiking, hunting, fishing etc or traveling to/from such or any other lawful outdoor activities. It is also legal to do so in National Parks!

I've had so much BS fobbed off as law by cops to me that it isn't even funny, I am not going to get into a debate over this but your "booger eater" comments are going a little far and most folks know the actual truth of this matter.

hahaha relax buddy, I didn't inform you on every gun law, I was just simply addressing the "open carry" part of this!!!!!!   

[Swatson]

Your always doing something illegal! Either the cops choose not to enforce it, don't know the law, or there is some "other" enforcement agency that is suposed to come after you...
I have had many a conversation with a LEO about BS small infractions... They are used as a "Tool" so that they have probable cause to question you... Not to mention if you fail the "Attitude test" that tool becomes an infraction.

Here we go, everyones getting worked up!  Special T, first let me explain to you how this stuff works, I don't need Probable Cause(PC) to talk to anyone!  You need PC to arrest people not to talk to them.  PC means that more likely than not the person committed the crime(51%)  I can talk to anyone I want and thats their right if they choose to talk back!  Those BS small infractions aren't made by us, our job is enforce them.  I also get discretion on whether I educate or enforce on these "BS infractions."  If you don't agree with these violations take it up with the appropriate people!

[pianoman9701]

Your always doing something illegal! Either the cops choose not to enforce it, don't know the law, or there is some "other" enforcement agency that is suposed to come after you...
I have had many a conversation with a LEO about BS small infractions... They are used as a "Tool" so that they have probable cause to question you... Not to mention if you fail the "Attitude test" that tool becomes an infraction.

I don't share your experience with LE. The very few occasions I've had to deal with them, they were courteous and usually let me off. I've never been searched, never been asked if I was carrying, and haven't been written up on "BS" infractions. You must be very unlucky. Sorry to hear.

[Alchase]

Swatson, I have a question that you might be able to clarify for me. I have seen some ingenious handgun mounting options on a couple of the CPL and Handgun forums,  It would be nice to be able to remove my handgun from my IWB holster, and place it in a mounted holster with easy access when driving? I use a safe with a cable attached when not wearing it now, but I would really like to just mount an extra holster within reach.
 
I was confused if it was "legal" in Washington

As long as you have CPL.  I actually know someone that has mounted something similar on the right side of their steering wheel under the dash.  He was also himmed up by a rookie right out of the academy during a traffic stop until a senior Officer arrived and straightened things out.  Obviously this is a very complicated law and no matter how much they teach and pound these laws into the recruits at the academy there still gonna come out a little confused sometimes.  I would say that most cops are squared away on the gun laws and if they aren't or are in some doubt they will or at least should make damn sure before issuing a citation or hooking someone up.

Thank you,
Now I can get creative with a few of my extra holsters, LOL

[Alchase]

Your always doing something illegal! Either the cops choose not to enforce it, don't know the law, or there is some "other" enforcement agency that is suposed to come after you...
I have had many a conversation with a LEO about BS small infractions... They are used as a "Tool" so that they have probable cause to question you... Not to mention if you fail the "Attitude test" that tool becomes an infraction.

I don't share your experience with LE. The very few occasions I've had to deal with them, they were courteous and usually let me off. I've never been searched, never been asked if I was carrying, and haven't been written up on "BS" infractions. You must be very unlucky. Sorry to hear.

I have nothing but respect for the Pierce County Sherif's department, they are spread very thin, and have served us in my community (I live in Sterling Ridge) extremely well.
 

[Swatson]

You bet.  That being said, don't be surprised if you get stopped and removed from your vehicle until the contact is over.  You gotta be outta your mind if you think I'm gonna go back to my patrol car knowing you have a pistol mounted on your dash!  I'd probably have you sit on your back bumper until I was done with my stop.  That saying most Police Officers are all for gun rights and very pro gun.  Not all but most!

[wapiti hunter2]

I don't share your experience with LE. The very few occasions I've had to deal with them, they were courteous and usually let me off. I've never been searched, never been asked if I was carrying, and haven't been written up on "BS" infractions. You must be very unlucky. Sorry to hear.

I have nothing but respect for the Pierce County Sherif's department, they are spread very thin, and have served us in my community (I live in Sterling Ridge) extremely well.
 
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Likewise.  LEO now days are in a freaking war.  It isn't like the Barney Fife days of the 50's and 60's.  I have nothing but respect for those in local LE.  The bad guys are armed to the teeth and LEO get shot and killed on a regular basis now days.  I am always friendly and courteous and if I can, I will buy their coffee and say thanks.

You bet.  That being said, don't be surprised if you get stopped and removed from your vehicle until the contact is over.  You gotta be outta your mind if you think I'm gonna go back to my patrol car knowing you have a pistol mounted on your dash!  I'd probably have you sit on your back bumper until I was done with my stop.  That saying most Police Officers are all for gun rights and very pro gun.  Not all but most!

If this happens to me I will sit on my bumper like a lamb.  I totally understand. 

[Alchase]

I have not been pulled over in a long time (knock on wood) if I were to be pulled over, I would hand my CPL to the Officer or Deputy with my drivers licence and let them know right away if there is a weapon near by.
 
I always wanted to be in law enforcement, but I soon realized that I do not have the patience to deal with everyday idiotic situations they have to go through. Honestly I do not think I could restrain myself if I came a crossed some a$$ that hurts children in any way. I am a firm believer that "sometimes" an a$$ kicking is needed to solve the vast majority of the problems we face. That would not go over well as a sworn officer.
 
My advice to anyone who wonders what it is like to be a law enforcement officer, do a ride-a-long program with them. It will open your eyes to reality from an Officer's point of view.

[runamuk]

I have been pulled over TWICE ( knock on wood toss salt etc) ....and the most recent one was after I had gotten my cpl...tossed him my license which also has my cpl in the same thingy he asked very nicely if I was carrying or there was a weapon in my rig I said no its not allowed at work or on their property, so he proceeded to give me a lecture about speeding I never used to speed usually I am that annoying twit who is going the speed limit but after work I just wanted to get home ASAP that night 

I've had cops in my home a few times and its just not an issue ever... I am not a criminal and my ownership of guns has been considered pretty normal  I also have always lived in the BFE areas of this state maybe thats the difference...

[Alchase]

Payback for being the annoying twit going slow in the left lane, lol 
J/K Run

[runamuk]

Payback for being the annoying twit going slow in the left lane, lol 
J/K Run

OH nonono I do not go slow in left lane  if I hit left lane its pedal on the floor so I can get out of those peoples way  my new ride only has 4 chipmonks under the hood so I dread hitting the passing lane tough getting them chippy's wound up enough to pass much of anything