got a lot of nerve? # of posts vs advice

[bobcat]

Personally I don't think it matters one bit if someone signs up and the same day asks for information on an area. What makes a difference to me is how they ask the question, and if it's done in a respectful way. Then if they follow up and respond to the feedback they do get. Some people you never even hear from again after one or two posts.

Also, people need to use common sense when giving information on specific areas to hunt. You may not want to do it on the open forum; instead, do it through private messages. That way the whole world will not see it. And think about it, anything you post on here will be available to anyone and everyone on the internet, FOREVER. Try a Google search and you'll be amazed at how many hunting-washington threads come up in the results.

I also do not care in the least if they post in the Introduction thread first. Honestly, I have to say I never read that thread anymore. If someone wants to make a post and tell about themselves, fine. If not, I understand.

[adamR]

You ever heard of the term sportsmanship, brotherhood, friendship, helping hand??? Sure there are a few on here that pop in get info and never come back, oh well that society. To many people in this world got their head stuck up there ass and its all about me me me me me. Over what a set of antlers? Cry me a river!
I thought we were all hunters and we love the same sport? I was taught to help other because you know what? You yourself might need a helping hand.

I started the PEACHES RIDGE BULL TAG topic long ago and caught hell from alot of folks, some PM"S that if the dude was standing in front of me it would of gotten ugly. Have we really come this far in hunting that we won't help anyone except those that we know like family?  There are 120 tags for this area. Are all 120 going to get shot, I bet a whole hell of alot that the answer is no. So that means there is still some to be hunted.

So you stop to maybe help a guy with a flat, DO YOU ASK HIM HOW MANY POSTS HE HAS ON FLATTIRES.COM  I would hope not...

Not trying to start a war here but I'm a little upset that this is what the sport I love has come to be....

and to say someone don't deserve a bull? are you kidding me?  So now you have to scout a 100 miles and spend 500.00 on trail cams, haull in 5 tons of salt and wear out two pair of hiking boots... in order to justify you shooting a bull?

by the way one of the people I am helping has 2500 posts and some have 5  dont matter to me, but guess I was raised different than some....

I hope you get your bull, good luck..........

"its all about me, me, me, me" hmmmmm seems to me coming to a site and asking about help for me, and not helping someone else (which is what I am complaining about) is pretty much what you were just bitching about in your response, thats wierd?

[Skyvalhunter]

Yea then no introductions. The obvoiusly know about the site and decided they had or didn't want to contribute. But to each is own.

[predatorpro]

there are a few areas i put in for that i dont know i wont lie lol but those are for things like moose, my deer and elk units i put in for i know pretty well tho, it can be pretty hard to not put in for a great area tho even if you dont know it

[True Sportsman]

I love these threads.   

I was thinking the same thing... 

I think people in society today are used to social networking and the acquiring of knowledge very quickly. If somebody draws a tag, they want to know everything right now. Not many people will put in the work anymore.

There are a lot of people asking for info with their first post. It is funny to me.

Good site, this is... Knowledgeable, I am...

[D-Rock425]

So how many post do you have to have before you get any help?  The whole reason I joined this site was because I drew a bull permit in 09 and someone told me to check out this site because it has some good guys with good info.  I think the majority of guys that post needing help with tags come back and help other members out.  I know if someone on this site helps me out I remember it and try to help them later if I can.

[adamR]

there are a few areas i put in for that i dont know i wont lie lol but those are for things like moose, my deer and elk units i put in for i know pretty well tho, it can be pretty hard to not put in for a great area tho even if you dont know it

I understand that, i don't know the entiat but someday I would like to get drawn for it.  However, I think you should contribute and help someone else with info on a unit or simply insert your opinion a couple times... and If you don't have the time for that GET OUT AND SCOUT YOURSELF!!!

[Instinct]

I dont mind helping people out but i say general areas. I was thinking bout goin to packwood or s ranier this year and i dont know those areas but if i was going i would like a general idea of where to start and then do my hw from there.

[carpsniperg2]

Personally I don't think it matters one bit if someone signs up and the same day asks for information on an area. What makes a difference to me is how they ask the question, and if it's done in a respectful way. Then if they follow up and respond to the feedback they do get. Some people you never even hear from again after one or two posts.

Also, people need to use common sense when giving information on specific areas to hunt. You may not want to do it on the open forum; instead, do it through private messages. That way the whole world will not see it. And think about it, anything you post on here will be available to anyone and everyone on the internet, FOREVER. Try a Google search and you'll be amazed at how many hunting-washington threads come up in the results.

Agree with bobcat 100% share with them if you want if not just skip it. I love to help people out and will always help if I can. The only thing I hate is giving info on here and then never hearing anything on the site. They just go blank, never to come back again. This year has a ton of new members poping up with questions. For the oil tags no problem sharing anything I know, not like i am going to draw one in my life for deer and elk people just get general info.

PM'S are very nice!!! Keeps some things from everyone and guest from reading stuff without contributing to the site.

[50CalJim]

Well theres advice then theres advice.  If I were to give out advice to someone who has very few posts it would be broad and pretty much tell them to scout the area. But if it were a season veteran then I would be more specific. Its amazing how many people put in for these tags and no clue about the area they drew. I have been in units in September and had guys driving around actually learning the unit and gave them some ideas on maps. Everyone wants a big deer, elk, etc but putting in the effort makes it all the more rewarding.

Hey Sky I think I would be considered a "Seasoned Veteren".   So since  I drew the Alta Muzzy tag can i have all your Honey holes,GPS coordinates,Etc... Thanks in advance.

[6x6in6]

Personally I don't think it matters one bit if someone signs up and the same day asks for information on an area. What makes a difference to me is how they ask the question, and if it's done in a respectful way. Then if they follow up and respond to the feedback they do get. Some people you never even hear from again after one or two posts.

Also, people need to use common sense when giving information on specific areas to hunt. You may not want to do it on the open forum; instead, do it through private messages. That way the whole world will not see it. And think about it, anything you post on here will be available to anyone and everyone on the internet, FOREVER. Try a Google search and you'll be amazed at how many hunting-washington threads come up in the results.

Agree with bobcat 100% share with them if you want if not just skip it. I love to help people out and will always help if I can. The only thing I hate is giving info on here and then never hearing anything on the site. They just go blank, never to come back again. This year has a ton of new members poping up with questions. For the oil tags no problem sharing anything I know, not like i am going to draw one in my life for deer and elk people just get general info.

PM'S are very nice!!! Keeps some things from everyone and guest from reading stuff without contributing to the site.

EXACTLY!!!!
Post count don't mean squat to me.  Ya feel like sharing, share.  You don't, then don't.
I'll openly share info on areas I used to hunt and do not anymore.   I'll share info on places that I might or currently hunt via PM.

[Bean Counter]

Adam, I drew a tag in that unit.  I didn't do any research before I applied, and I'm too lazy to scout.  I just want to go shoot a big bull without a lot of hassle - got it?  When you're out scouting, make note of where the bulls are and PM me the GPS coordinates of each (if you can include a score, all the better cuz' I'm not that good and I want a MONSTER.)

If you want to send photos or videos that would even be better because then I can sit in my armchair while watching TV and decide which one I should go shoot.  When I get it down, I'll call you to help me pack it out.   I may give you a few bucks for your time.  Thanks dude.

I didn't ask for much more than that--only that you spray paint the animals antlers so I'm sure I"m killing the right one. Or you could slap a target on its ass. 

 

[carpsniperg2]

Adam, I drew a tag in that unit.  I didn't do any research before I applied, and I'm too lazy to scout.  I just want to go shoot a big bull without a lot of hassle - got it?  When you're out scouting, make note of where the bulls are and PM me the GPS coordinates of each (if you can include a score, all the better cuz' I'm not that good and I want a MONSTER.)

If you want to send photos or videos that would even be better because then I can sit in my armchair while watching TV and decide which one I should go shoot.  When I get it down, I'll call you to help me pack it out.   I may give you a few bucks for your time.  Thanks dude.

I didn't ask for much more than that--only that you spray paint the animals antlers so I'm sure I"m killing the right one. Or you could slap a target on its ass. 

 

Now we know what bean counter has been doing wrong Your shooting at the wrong end!

[Bean Counter]

I know I'm new to the site but I haven't asked for alot of advice because I've looked around and seen that it is common courtesy to have a few posts before something like that is done.  However, I'm noticing that since the permits came out there are alot of new comers that don't care.  Particularly in an area real close to my home where I also got drawn.  Why are we giving advice to someone with less than 20 posts and wants to know exactly where to find there bull?

I guess it just sucks knowing that I'm already putting in my scouting hours while someone from the other side is going to be told exactly where to go and get lucky on some bull that they don't really deserve.

There are a lot of people replying here who say that its fine and dandy to share info, but then lament when the person doesn't show up again.... Well what do you think the point of a post count is? It shows someones commitment to sticking around!

If I were a mod I'd find the best one of these threads and make it a sticky... and then put a note in the new registration page regarding forum etiquette... 

[HUNT]

So how many post do you have to have before you get any help?  The whole reason I joined this site was because I drew a bull permit in 09 and someone told me to check out this site because it has some good guys with good info.  I think the majority of guys that post needing help with tags come back and help other members out.  I know if someone on this site helps me out I remember it and try to help them later if I can.

Same for me D-Rock   I joined in 2009 after I drew a bull permit.  Some guys were kinda smart asses about things at first, but I waded through it and met some great guys.  I try to help guys out when I can and even hunted with one.

Nothing wrong with asking for a little help as long as they help themselves.