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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 10:25:25 PM »
There's quite a difference between a coyote track and a wolf track, I don't think you'd have to look that close to notice the difference.

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 10:43:02 PM »
they are just big coyote's, shoot em!
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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2011, 07:54:24 AM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2011, 10:57:02 AM »
Idaho and Montana have done extensive collaring of wolves and found that wolves will travel several hundred miles and even come back sometimes. One young wolf traveled through 5 states and something like 700 miles in 6 months, if I remember correctly it ended up getting posioned in Colorado, they found it dead. It's only about 300 miles from the Idaho border to any point in the cascades.

I know it's easy to get drawn into thinking WDFW is planting wolves, but I honestly do not think they are. These wolves are running out of food in some areas of Idaho and they are looking for new game rich country to hunt in. If you look at the wolf kills so far in Idaho, none have been killed in the LOLO, many have left because there's nothing left to eat.

In my heart I believe these wolves are simply expanding their territory. I also know from the weekly wolf reports coming in from hunters and ranchers that WDFW is way behind on documenting wolves. These 100+ wolves we have now are going to be raising pups every year, I truly believe that in a year or two we will have wolves in every part of Washington. Just here in the northeast where I live, it is unbelievable how fast wolves are expanding in numbers.
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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2011, 03:19:55 PM »

I know it's easy to get drawn into thinking WDFW is planting wolves, but I honestly do not think they are. These wolves are running out of food in some areas of Idaho and they are looking for new game rich country to hunt in. If you look at the wolf kills so far in Idaho, none have been killed in the LOLO, many have left because there's nothing left to eat.

In my heart I believe these wolves are simply expanding their territory. I also know from the weekly wolf reports coming in from hunters and ranchers that WDFW is way behind on documenting wolves. These 100+ wolves we have now are going to be raising pups every year, I truly believe that in a year or two we will have wolves in every part of Washington. Just here in the northeast where I live, it is unbelievable how fast wolves are expanding in numbers.

 :yeah:  Wise observations there

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2011, 03:43:22 PM »
I dont think WDFW plant there. I am hoping they DIDNT. IF I SEE GROUP BIOS, OFFICERS RELEASED WOLVES  I would fight on officers till I am Jailed. But Possible people like normal as neighorhood or somewhere who loves wolves they probablly own 1,000- 13,000acerage or bigger rancher over Id, Mt, Missu.  they could trap few with out people know and haul out over other side and dump wolves.  Its totally EASY to do that.  U cant image how many trucks with capony cover it, drive all over American.  I cant catch crook who doing stupid thing to piss us off by dump wolves in to different area.  How many Meth with camper in forest, how many drugs u can find.  its everything they can do in any state by not get caught... How many Mexican flee in to american by not catch them.  They could easy dump wolf anywhere.    :bash:
Wolves moving long way easy when hunter or people got in wolves way they will move down quickly to find a huge area to settle down.
I would like Pic of trailcamera, or scat, or dead wolf.   :chuckle:

It will spread faster this year since Idaho hunter start to shoot them more.  We expect to get closer to 15 packs by next year.

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2011, 03:47:27 PM »
ive seen wolf tracks in mineral and me and dad saw 3 in randle last year during late buck
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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2011, 04:09:57 PM »
for reference, my german shepherds had 2 litters from my female who was only 1 yr old, in less than 12 months time totalling 21 pups. i assume wolves if well nourished are capable of the same... about 50/50 males to females. so after 3 years how many breeding females do you have just from that first year...

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2011, 04:18:44 PM »
 Not too far fetched to believe that they couldn't travel down the crest trail from BC. Then there is always the possibility it is a Cascadian Grey wolf and they aren't extinct after all. Of course I don't figure it to be too far fetched that wolves may have been released either, maybe not officialy :rolleyes:, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Then again my dad said he saw a wolf in the Fawn Lake area about 15 years ago, we were up fishing I was with him but didnot see it myself. I would like to think however my dad knew what a coyote looked like and the differences, he said it was big and darker colored.

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2011, 10:20:11 AM »
Live in the area and heard that during deer season someone saw a cow elk by Hoffstadt being chased by wolves.  There could be another source for them besides migration.   A few years ago a guy in Kid Valley had some "pet" wildlife that he was feeding roadkill.  The DOT stopped letting him pick up the dead deer so he didn't have any food for his wolves so he let them go.  (This is just what I heard locally--didn't see these released wolves myself) My Dad swears he saw one on Hatchet Mtn.  Could these be the wolves that are on the mudflow.....

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2011, 10:35:45 AM »
Would a Class Action lawsuit force the state to release all documentation to date?

Also, how many people need to be signed on for a Class Action lawsuit to be filed? 

I am serious, they are destroying this state's wildlife resources by PLANTING animals that are not nor ever were native to our state......  is that not enough grounds for a lawsuit?  If every sportsman just signed on to this plan, it might make a dent somewhere, heck if we just had more people join WFW.....

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2011, 11:36:31 AM »
All you need is a single individual and a FOIA

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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2011, 06:14:41 PM »
 :yeah:
I would think this would be a great way to hold their feet to the fire.
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Re: Wolfs in mudflow area?
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2011, 06:37:41 PM »
dont live that far from there i heard a rumor about this last year around here in town?   definately can tell a coyote howl over a wolf as i hunt coyotes. would not be surprised if they are there.
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