twisp rancher in trouble for killin 3 wolves !!!!!!

[Special T]

I would happen to guess this guy is a criminal. I say this because most criminals are caught because they animals of opportunity, not planners. If this guy had taken the time to really think about reducing wolves he would have done one of 2 things. 1 Done a little thinking about the most effective way of wiping out as many as these animals as possible. 2 Decided that the risk verses reward was worth staying legal. Shooting wolves is the least effective way to kill them off. Just think of a few articles that have been posted here... Legal hunting near Denali NP can only curb 3-6% of the population. Arial Gunning in ID in the Lolo area only killed 5 wolves...
Professionals use their noodle and Plan a crime... This guy wasn't a professional.
Criminal... walks into a liquor store and robs by shooting.
Professional... In and out of a bank in 60 seconds with no shooting.
Average crack head Criminal
Hollywood bandit, Movie The Town or point break, or Heat... Professionals

Most of the time when you weigh the risk verses reward you come out better staying legal... That is what this guy should have done...

[MikeWalking]

 

And not having your name on a box leaking blood at the FedEx counter..

[jeepasaurusrex]

 

[CavemantheHunter]

I ran into two wolves up near Twisp while muley hunting a few years back. It was a rare sight to see, but from what I hear from the ranchers down there, they have become quite the problem and are breeding like wildfire.

[ErikN]

If you see a wolf shoot it, and don't tell. If you don't there won't be any deer or elk to hunt. I am not going to let some idiot politician destroy hunting for the future just to get some environmentalist vote. If you think I am over the top, I don't care. This is why Idaho is only selling half the non resident tags they did 5 years ago. I literally see 5% of the deer I saw 5 years ago. They kill everything. I used to see 150-200 deer a week in Idaho. This last year I saw 7 total, and heard a pack howling near our camp at night.

If you don't shoot wolves illegally now, you will be shooting deer and elk illegally later, because they are on the fast track to becoming endangered if the packs get much bigger.

[jackelope]

ErikN-
So you're telling me you woild risk your livelihood, your family's well being and whatever else bad could come your way if you got stuffed into a prison for poaching wolves?
Mr. White had the same thought process as you, well except for the bloody box. Look where he ended up.

p.s. I will remind you of the rules because it's part of my "job". Bearpaw posted this here:
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,78064.0.html

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[Buckhunter24]

If you see a wolf shoot it, and don't tell. If you don't there won't be any deer or elk to hunt. I am not going to let some idiot politician destroy hunting for the future just to get some environmentalist vote. If you think I am over the top, I don't care. This is why Idaho is only selling half the non resident tags they did 5 years ago. I literally see 5% of the deer I saw 5 years ago. They kill everything. I used to see 150-200 deer a week in Idaho. This last year I saw 7 total, and heard a pack howling near our camp at night.

If you don't shoot wolves illegally now, you will be shooting deer and elk illegally later, because they are on the fast track to becoming endangered if the packs get much bigger.

What general area in Idaho are you hunting?

[teanawayslayer]

I would happen to guess this guy is a criminal. I say this because most criminals are caught because they animals of opportunity, not planners. If this guy had taken the time to really think about reducing wolves he would have done one of 2 things. 1 Done a little thinking about the most effective way of wiping out as many as these animals as possible. 2 Decided that the risk verses reward was worth staying legal. Shooting wolves is the least effective way to kill them off. Just think of a few articles that have been posted here... Legal hunting near Denali NP can only curb 3-6% of the population. Arial Gunning in ID in the Lolo area only killed 5 wolves...
Professionals use their noodle and Plan a crime... This guy wasn't a professional.
Criminal... walks into a liquor store and robs by shooting.
Professional... In and out of a bank in 60 seconds with no shooting.
Average crack head Criminal
Hollywood bandit, Movie The Town or point break, or Heat... Professionals

Most of the time when you weigh the risk verses reward you come out better staying legal... That is what this guy should have done...
[/quot did you think that maybe that's because he isn't a criminal!!!!!

[teanawayslayer]

To the white family,  I wish you all the best in court!!!

[pianoman9701]

To the white family,  I wish you all the best in court!!!

If he did what they say he did, I hope they throw the book at him. Not only was he stupid enough to mail a bloody wolf pelt, but he was apparently poaching other animals, as well. At best, he's not capable of any kind of good judgement. In all likeliness, he's a poacher and makes legal and ethical hunters, and hunting in general look bad to the 94% of WA residents who don't hunt.

I object to the state's proposed wolf plan and would've been fine if they'd never reintroduced them. But, the way for us to gain public support in our battle against WDFW's ridiculous wolf proposal ISN'T to poach animals and make sure everyone west of the Mississippi knows about it.

[Special T]

TWslayer... I don't have any problems with the fact that this guy whacked a wolf. Would i do it? no.. Your quote of me left me slightly confuesed... Do i think he is criminal? yes do i think he is like most other criminal that do not think thier crimes through? yes. Am i going to  about it? not a drop.. From what i have heard it is pretty tough to catch poatchers, so if you get caught breaking the law that is the hardest to be caught at... 

[ErikN]

Ok, I'll keep my thoughts to myself. I wasn't trying to violate the websites policy. I just don't think the vast majority of people truly understand the massive devistation wolves are causing.

[teanawayslayer]

TWslayer... I don't have any problems with the fact that this guy whacked a wolf. Would i do it? no.. Your quote of me left me slightly confuesed... Do i think he is criminal? yes do i think he is like most other criminal that do not think thier crimes through? yes. Am i going to  about it? not a drop.. From what i have heard it is pretty tough to catch poatchers, so if you get caught breaking the law that is the hardest to be caught at... 

I respect your opinion

[pianoman9701]

Ok, I'll keep my thoughts to myself. I wasn't trying to violate the websites policy. I just don't think the vast majority of people truly understand the massive devistation wolves are causing.

You don't need to keep your thoughts to yourself. Civil discourse is what this forum is all about. However, IMHO I think it's a valid point that poor public opinion could easily be as destructive to our hunting heritage as the gray wolf. This guy makes me look bad in the eyes of non-hunters and I believe I need to take a stand, as a hunter, that his actions were wrong, should not be tolerated, and do not represent my values and ethical imperatives in any way.