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Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« on: June 27, 2011, 11:28:33 AM »
I've been having a problem with my 2" blazer vanes not bonding to the shafts, regardless of what type glue I use or how much I use. My fletching jig is the Jojan fletcher with a helical. Anyone have similar experience and have a solution for me? Thanks.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 11:31:46 AM »
What type shaft are you having trouble getting them to stick to??

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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 11:32:04 AM »
Wrap your shafts :tup: :chuckle: Problems solved :tup:
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2011, 11:32:22 AM »
What type shaft are you having trouble getting them to stick to??

Beaman ICS Hunter 400s
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2011, 11:33:27 AM »
Wrap your shafts :tup: :chuckle: Problems solved :tup:

Does dipping accomplish the same thing?
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 11:36:53 AM »
Yes but I don't like dipped carbon arrows. The paint does not stay of the shaft as well.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 11:39:42 AM »
Yes but I don't like dipped carbon arrows. The paint does not stay of the shaft as well.

Thanks Carp. I'll try that with the next batch.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 11:44:52 AM »
No pro, the finish on some shafts will not let the glue stick well. With a wrap any glue/vane will stick. You could also try to ruff up the shafts with some fine sand paper, but I have never liked doing that.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2011, 11:48:42 AM »
No pro, the finish on some shafts will not let the glue stick well. With a wrap any glue/vane will stick. You could also try to ruff up the shafts with some fine sand paper, but I have never liked doing that.

Yeah, I've had problems with added water weight in the rain after sanding off the finish. I like the wrap idea much better.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2011, 12:04:40 PM »
 :con: wrap your shaft its the way to go  :chuckle:

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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 12:11:01 PM »
:con: wrap your shaft its the way to go  :chuckle:

Lol, especially around this crowd.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 12:16:40 PM »
:con: wrap your shaft its the way to go  :chuckle:
yeah that for sure,  hope my son heads that advise, cant help ya with the arrows... :sry:   :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2011, 04:32:11 PM »
are you cleaning the base of the fletching before glueing them? They have an accelerant on them that if wiped off will prevent them from sticking.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2011, 05:42:18 PM »
are you cleaning the base of the fletching before glueing them? They have an accelerant on them that if wiped off will prevent them from sticking.

Yes, I clean both the shafts and the vanes with pure denatured alcohol. I've been told today that the Beaman shafts have a coating on them that inhibits bonding. The advice to wrap them was repeated. I think I'm all set and thanks everyone for helping me out with this.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2011, 07:37:31 PM »
i dont go bareback any more. my shaft is always wrapped. :tup:
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2011, 10:30:55 PM »


I prefer to wrap then dip! Everything gets sticky that way.

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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2011, 01:46:15 PM »
Wrapping is not always the way to go, it will add weight to the end and could throw off the balance of your arrows. I would  balance them before adding more weight just to make sure. If they need a little weight in the rear go for it, if not you could see a difference     in flight and tuning. To balance use 10% foc. When finding center include broad heads and the v of the nick for total length. Try lightly sanding the shaft before using the alcohol. Little alcohol on the face of the vanes don't hurt either.
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Re: Blazers not sticking - Is it the helical?
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2011, 01:48:01 PM »
Thank you all very much. I think I have what I need to go forward on this.
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