New Rifle Dilema (CZ For Sure, But...)

[addicted]

the buy now price is around $1490.  I think that scope costs about 800 euros but i'm not sure if it's included or not. if you live in germany they mail to your front door.

I think i would take the steyr myself. Thats 5,000+ euros of gun and glass with the current bid at 1,500 and 13 hours left. 

[addicted]

here is one in the states.

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215787460

[Sporting_Man]

Yeah, but I have one CZ550 American and those with iron sights would work better for me. Lux models... I really don't understand why don't they have that line of rifles here, in the US... They used to, but not any more.

[addicted]

because Americans generally aren't interested in having a gun that can shoot in a drive hunt with palm swell, a flanged Bavarian forestock and iron sights. they want a generic cast receiver rem700 in 7mm mag that they will put permanent rings and a scope that will only come off when it breaks.  Many only hunt one 3 day weekend a year and don't have or put the time in to really learn iron sights proficiently therefor a simple scope is practical and easy for them. I'm not saying Americans are a bunch of weekend warrior office junkies, infact i have met several people especially on this site who I would hit the mountains with any day.

90% of the rifles i see set up over here have true return to zero QD rings/mounts so that they can either use iron sights or switch to some sort of red dot. frankonia usually has a sale on the rifle you want with schwenkmontage rings/bases which have to be hand tooled differently for each rifle-scope set up by a proffessional machinist/buchsemacher and a meopta scope as kind of a package deal.

at the end of the day its all still just     

[Sporting_Man]

Agree to most of it, Addicted, but I still think that further you go out there, more it makes sense to have iron sights for a back-up. That would be a logical reason, on the other hand, I want an "adventure" rifle, that would be counted on for everything that happens out there in the woods... That one has to be with iron sights. You probably have even better reasons, since you obviously have them as well.

[addicted]

I orginally purchased Warne QD rings for mine and i intended to use my irons for close hunts but i found a sweet deal on the one piece steel mount i have it it currently that was a prototype from meopta. This made it a czeck scope on czeck rings on a czeck rifle. The mount has worked well and it is super beefy as i use it for a carrying handle.

[Miles]

because Americans generally aren't interested in having a gun that can shoot in a drive hunt with palm swell, a flanged Bavarian forestock and iron sights. they want a generic cast receiver rem700 in 7mm mag that they will put permanent rings and a scope that will only come off when it breaks.  Many only hunt one 3 day weekend a year and don't have or put the time in to really learn iron sights proficiently therefor a simple scope is practical and easy for them.

If you had hunted on the eastern portion of the US, drives and open sights are very common.  That's not just stuff they do in Germany.

And just because Washington has a short season and some people only get out and hunt one 3 day weekend, that doesn't mean the majority of the US hunting population does the same.

[Miles]

I guess my next gun is going to have to be a Rem 700 in 7mm Mag...

[addicted]

i dont think you could take the kick. thats why you got the swede 

[Miles]

i dont think you could take the kick. thats why you got the swede 

True...I wouldn't want to develop a flinch just to make next years deer "more dead".

[Sporting_Man]

Funny, but I returned to hunting with 7mm Rem Mag caliber... Made my shoulder more dead only... while I was practicing. I could tolerate 20-25 rounds a day, that was it. 

[addicted]

my buddy put 75 rounds through his 338 mag a couple months back.  the next day he didnt even want to go sit in a stand because he was afraid something would come out and he would have to shoot again.

[Sporting_Man]

my buddy put 75 rounds through his 338 mag a couple months back.  the next day he didnt even want to go sit in a stand because he was afraid something would come out and he would have to shoot again.

 
75 rounds even from the 30-06 sporter is  IMHO 

[addicted]

Alright Sporting man, lets see pics of your new rifle.