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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2011, 12:35:00 PM »
Awesome. Thanks for the diligence.
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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2011, 12:55:41 PM »
Yes thanks PlateauNDN.

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2011, 01:07:11 PM »
Ive been hunting the 328 gmu for 20+ years. Two years in a row i have witnessed a  80s-90s red ford f-150 haul elk out of the game reserve in the colockum. last year i confronted the truck without plates and three dead bull elk in the back. The two men inside told me they were tribal members from Yakima. I proceded to ask why they were hunting the game reserve and they said they can hunt anywhere they want. I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities. they took of fast when i got my phone. I would have chased but i had my two young boys with me. This was in august mid week about 2 weeks before bow season. do you think they ever got stopped. I'm going up there same time this year and I'm going to flattin the tires on that truck if there parked on the reserve.

The gates need to be locked to many body's up there with no heads. damn poachers
 

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2011, 04:13:00 PM »
I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities.

Now thats an idea! at least you tried. Thank you for not just assuming.
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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2011, 04:51:17 PM »
Ive been hunting the 328 gmu for 20+ years. Two years in a row i have witnessed a  80s-90s red ford f-150 haul elk out of the game reserve in the colockum. last year i confronted the truck without plates and three dead bull elk in the back. The two men inside told me they were tribal members from Yakima. I proceded to ask why they were hunting the game reserve and they said they can hunt anywhere they want. I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities. they took of fast when i got my phone. I would have chased but i had my two young boys with me. This was in august mid week about 2 weeks before bow season. do you think they ever got stopped. I'm going up there same time this year and I'm going to flattin the tires on that truck if there parked on the reserve.

The gates need to be locked to many body's up there with no heads. damn poachers

I'm glad you chose to do something about what you saw.  It might be to much to ask but can you take a camera, pencil and paper this year and gather intel. first before approaching them?  Once you have the intel. on them then contact the authorities with what you are witnessing.  You don't have to say they're Tribal Members just say you believe they're poaching or what ever comes to mind and that would at least get L.E. started on the case.

I'm not telling you what to do but I strongly encourage you not to do anything physical for the safety of everybody involved.  It's discouraging but, having everybody in one piece is better than having anyone end up in the hospital.

If you would like maybe gather the info. and give it to me and I would be glad to assist you with it?
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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2011, 10:06:05 PM »
Can they hunt the reserve legally? Is that like the feeding stations?  Are they only limited during winter supplemental feeding times? Can farmers use tribal hunters for crop damage? Thanks in advance for your time.

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2011, 02:33:50 AM »
Ive been hunting the 328 gmu for 20+ years. Two years in a row i have witnessed a  80s-90s red ford f-150 haul elk out of the game reserve in the colockum. last year i confronted the truck without plates and three dead bull elk in the back. The two men inside told me they were tribal members from Yakima. I proceded to ask why they were hunting the game reserve and they said they can hunt anywhere they want. I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities. they took of fast when i got my phone. I would have chased but i had my two young boys with me. This was in august mid week about 2 weeks before bow season. do you think they ever got stopped. I'm going up there same time this year and I'm going to flattin the tires on that truck if there parked on the reserve.

The gates need to be locked to many body's up there with no heads. damn poachers
 

I've also seen this pick-up by the reserve with a bull (6x6) in the back in late August.  We called the WSP and told them we were following them down toward Ellensburg.  They were pulled over and we had given the WSP the info we had.  A week or so later we received a call and were told the natives were within their rights but thanks for reporting. :bash: 

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2011, 05:26:57 PM »
I would like to know the answer to the reserve question as well.   If I know they can't, I'll make dang sure to get photos if I see it.

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2011, 05:36:15 PM »
I thought the tribal season started August 1st. Guess I thought wrong.  :dunno:

I'll have to take a look at their regulations again. Sure doesn't seem right.
Most tribal seasons start on Aug.1st but at anytime of the year for ceremonial reasons, birthdays, deaths, someone passed gas- they can go kill anytime. I'm not saying this is tribal by the way, sure would be nice to get the truth about it.

That is correct.
I know a guy who was let out of county jail to go kill a ceremonial elk.  :bash:
 
Speaking of let out...there was a Nisqually busted for DWI outside of Thurston County that had his case moved to tribal court so he could do work release. He walked across the street to his firework stand. He said it was like "Mayberry".




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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #99 on: July 10, 2011, 07:49:52 PM »
My understanding is the Reserve is off limits to tribal hunting but it's not enforced.  :bash:
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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #100 on: July 10, 2011, 08:53:53 PM »
was it a red ford ranger if it was the bull came off the reservation seen the whole animal in the back on my way home with my boys from a day of trout fishing at the lakes that was on saturday

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #101 on: July 11, 2011, 12:12:10 AM »
Newer model Red Chevy 1/2 ton (gas).  Probably had a 2 inch lift.(looked higher than stock)  Have to admit I was looking at the antlers. Three across the front seat.   Had a small dream catcher in the front and some sort of emblem (white sticker) in the rear window.

@biggdogg.  Here was the vehicle description. 
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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #102 on: July 11, 2011, 05:07:40 AM »
sounds like another victim biggdogg.

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #103 on: July 11, 2011, 08:23:47 AM »
was it a red ford ranger if it was the bull came off the reservation seen the whole animal in the back on my way home with my boys from a day of trout fishing at the lakes that was on saturday
Did you report it?

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Re: and it begins!
« Reply #104 on: July 11, 2011, 04:10:16 PM »
Ive been hunting the 328 gmu for 20+ years. Two years in a row i have witnessed a  80s-90s red ford f-150 haul elk out of the game reserve in the colockum. last year i confronted the truck without plates and three dead bull elk in the back. The two men inside told me they were tribal members from Yakima. I proceded to ask why they were hunting the game reserve and they said they can hunt anywhere they want. I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities. they took of fast when i got my phone. I would have chased but i had my two young boys with me. This was in august mid week about 2 weeks before bow season. do you think they ever got stopped. I'm going up there same time this year and I'm going to flattin the tires on that truck if there parked on the reserve.

The gates need to be locked to many body's up there with no heads. damn poachers
 

I've also seen this pick-up by the reserve with a bull (6x6) in the back in late August.  We called the WSP and told them we were following them down toward Ellensburg.  They were pulled over and we had given the WSP the info we had.  A week or so later we received a call and were told the natives were within their rights but thanks for reporting. :bash:

Sorry it took so long but I've been busy with work but here are some answers.  The information is the Revised Yakama Law & Order Code and only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and the Ceded Areas under the Tribes Jurisdiction.

Sec. 32.106.09: HUNTING PROHIBITED.  Subject to the exceptions in Sections 32.106.09 and 32.106.11, hunting or taking of wildlife by any persons within any wildlife reserve is prohibited.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Sec. 32.106.15:  UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF HUNTING EQUIPMENT.  It shall be unlawful for any person to have in his or her possession any hunting equipment, including, but not limited to, rifles, shotguns, or bows and arrows, within a wildlife reserve, unless such person also possesses any Special Permits required under this Chapter.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Sec. 32.110.57:  FAILURE TO IDENTIFY.  It shall be unlawful for any person reasonably suspected of violating this Code who is able to offer proof of his or her identity to willfully refuse to do so to a game warden who, after identifying himself as such, demands identification.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Cow Elk and Doe are closed season from January 1 thru August 31. 

BillytheKidRock, As for the Yakamas we don't allow the release of inmates whether it's Tribal, City or County Jail for hunting reasons.  In order for somebody to get out of jail they first have to go before the judge and plead their case and provide proof of being an immediate family member.  If they are being held for a serious offense then they have to be escorted by L.E. and wear ankle shackles at the very least.

I don't know how the Nisqually or whoever that gentleman is with could allow such an event but it doesn't occur here.  It's incidents like this that give everybody a bad name, that's abuse of privileges and should not be occuring. I provided escort for a lot of funerals and majority of the time they were only released for the final day or two.  Even when my grandmother passed (my mom's mom) my uncle (my mom's brother) was not allowed to attend until the day of the burial with escort and wrist, waist and ankle restraints and he was in custody for a DUI.

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