and it begins!

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Thanks plateau I appreciate all your time and knowledge. What about the farm fields? Thanks again

[PlateauNDN]

Thanks plateau I appreciate all your time and knowledge. What about the farm fields? Thanks again

Sorry, the only thing I could find that would address this is the following: 

Sec. 32.110.43:  HUNTING NEAR RESIDENCES.  Attempting to hunt, kill, take, trap or pursue any wildlife within a 200-yard radius of an inhabited dwelling or livestock feedlot, unless permissions to do so has been granted by the owner or tenant, is prohibited.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a misdemeanor.

If the farmer were the property owner within the Ceded Area he could in essence allow a Tribal Member to hunt the property but, he could not assist with the hunt in anyway per:

Sec. 32.110.49:  UNAUTHORIZED TREATY HUNTING.
A.    It shall be unlawful for a Yakama Member to:
(1)   Hunt or take wildlife pursuant to Treaty Hunting Rights for the use of any person in his or her company who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting Rights; or
(2)   Allow a person who is not authorized to exercise Treaty Hunting rights to hunt or take wildlife for him or her, or assist him or her in exercising such rights.

It's lawful but, the landowner has to give permission and not assist per above and if it's violated then both parties face criminal violations.

Any other questions please let me know.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Ive been hunting the 328 gmu for 20+ years. Two years in a row i have witnessed a  80s-90s red ford f-150 haul elk out of the game reserve in the colockum. last year i confronted the truck without plates and three dead bull elk in the back. The two men inside told me they were tribal members from Yakima. I proceded to ask why they were hunting the game reserve and they said they can hunt anywhere they want. I was not happy with that answer and proceeded to call the authorities. they took of fast when i got my phone. I would have chased but i had my two young boys with me. This was in august mid week about 2 weeks before bow season. do you think they ever got stopped. I'm going up there same time this year and I'm going to flattin the tires on that truck if there parked on the reserve.

The gates need to be locked to many body's up there with no heads. damn poachers
 

I've also seen this pick-up by the reserve with a bull (6x6) in the back in late August.  We called the WSP and told them we were following them down toward Ellensburg.  They were pulled over and we had given the WSP the info we had.  A week or so later we received a call and were told the natives were within their rights but thanks for reporting.

Sorry it took so long but I've been busy with work but here are some answers.  The information is the Revised Yakama Law & Order Code and only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and the Ceded Areas under the Tribes Jurisdiction.

Sec. 32.106.09: HUNTING PROHIBITED.  Subject to the exceptions in Sections 32.106.09 and 32.106.11, hunting or taking of wildlife by any persons within any wildlife reserve is prohibited.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Sec. 32.106.15:  UNLAWFUL POSSESSION OF HUNTING EQUIPMENT.  It shall be unlawful for any person to have in his or her possession any hunting equipment, including, but not limited to, rifles, shotguns, or bows and arrows, within a wildlife reserve, unless such person also possesses any Special Permits required under this Chapter.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Sec. 32.110.57:  FAILURE TO IDENTIFY.  It shall be unlawful for any person reasonably suspected of violating this Code who is able to offer proof of his or her identity to willfully refuse to do so to a game warden who, after identifying himself as such, demands identification.  Violation of this Section by an Indian is a gross misdemeanor.

Cow Elk and Doe are closed season from January 1 thru August 31. 

BillytheKidRock, As for the Yakamas we don't allow the release of inmates whether it's Tribal, City or County Jail for hunting reasons.  In order for somebody to get out of jail they first have to go before the judge and plead their case and provide proof of being an immediate family member.  If they are being held for a serious offense then they have to be escorted by L.E. and wear ankle shackles at the very least.

I don't know how the Nisqually or whoever that gentleman is with could allow such an event but it doesn't occur here.  It's incidents like this that give everybody a bad name, that's abuse of privileges and should not be occuring. I provided escort for a lot of funerals and majority of the time they were only released for the final day or two.  Even when my grandmother passed (my mom's mom) my uncle (my mom's brother) was not allowed to attend until the day of the burial with escort and wrist, waist and ankle restraints and he was in custody for a DUI.

If anybody has any questions let me know.

 Thanks PlateauNDN. Yes one question Could you give us a URL so that we can print those up out of the official rule book? Or tell us how to get a copy of it?

[PlateauNDN]

If anybody would like a pdf version shoot me a PM and I will provide you with my e-mail and will send it to you.  Again, this only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and Ceded land under the Yakama Nation Jurisdiction.  If there is any other Tribe/Tribal Member caught hunting in the Ceded Area or Coming off the Yakama Reservation then they are subject to State Law because no other Tribe has rights within our Reservation or Ceded Area.

[Sumpnneedskillin]

If anybody would like a pdf version shoot me a PM and I will provide you with my e-mail and will send it to you.  Again, this only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and Ceded land under the Yakama Nation Jurisdiction.  If there is any other Tribe/Tribal Member caught hunting in the Ceded Area or Coming off the Yakama Reservation then they are subject to State Law because no other Tribe has rights within our Reservation or Ceded Area.

Doesn't the Yakama nation have some overlap of ceded areas with Nez Perce's?

[PlateauNDN]

If anybody would like a pdf version shoot me a PM and I will provide you with my e-mail and will send it to you.  Again, this only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and Ceded land under the Yakama Nation Jurisdiction.  If there is any other Tribe/Tribal Member caught hunting in the Ceded Area or Coming off the Yakama Reservation then they are subject to State Law because no other Tribe has rights within our Reservation or Ceded Area.

Doesn't the Yakama nation have some overlap of ceded areas with Nez Perce's?

Yes about 15 square miles at the west end of Whitman Co. and that's it.  They are not allowed to harvest any further west outside of Whitman Co.  Same for the Tribes involved with the Treaty of Point Elliot.  They have rights that overlap for about 25 square miles in the north end of Chelan Co. and that's it no further south then the established boundary.

If any of the Nez Perce, Tulalip, Muckleshoot or any other Tribe for that matter are outside the established boundary they are poaching and fall under State Law.

[colockumelk]

Plateau I'd like to take the time to thank you.  I know you have a busy schedule but you have taken the time to educate us on alot of these rules and regs.  You're doing alot of good for "both sides of the fence".  I really do appreciate it.  Espcecially since some members can sometimes get heated.  You have stayed calm and respectfull, but then again I'd expect that from a Marine since to be one you have gotta have skin like an alligator, THICK!  From one Devil Dog to another thanks. 

[Elkaholic daWg]

If anybody would like a pdf version shoot me a PM and I will provide you with my e-mail and will send it to you.  Again, this only pertains to the Yakama Reservation and Ceded land under the Yakama Nation Jurisdiction.  If there is any other Tribe/Tribal Member caught hunting in the Ceded Area or Coming off the Yakama Reservation then they are subject to State Law because no other Tribe has rights within our Reservation or Ceded Area.

 Got it ! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[724wd]

still no pictures?

[PlateauNDN]

Nothing.  I spoke with a relative to one of the gentlemen and they said they don't know what they did with the rack.  I've made a few inquiries to an old friend with the PD and he just confirmed what I already knew about nothing legally can be done since they harvested the bull for the funeral and reported it and took the meat to the funeral for consumption.  Since they reported harvesting a bull and took the meat to the funeral they are not concerned with the antlers as much as the meat. 

I would like to see them in person but since the person that supposedly has the rack is a person that I really don't care for and I would do more harm then good going there looking for them.  I have asked another relative of his to get some pics for me and it sounds like they're going to come through for me if they locate them since they really don't care for him either but he is tolerable to some level to them because of their niece and nephews. 

I'll keep you guys posted.

[trophyhunt]

This makes me sick to my stomach......if they didn't care about the antlers why in the hell didn't they just shoot a cow! You can't tell me it's easier to find a big bull in velvet than a cow, on an animal reserve!!! I will keep my angry thoughts to myself on this one.  Thanks for finding out the info PlateauNDN.  Does this topic help you understand why we get so f n pissed with the whole damn subject, I'm sure it doesn't make you happy either.

[KNOPHISH]

Here's an idea, Make all ceremonial hunts cow only. It would be better for the herd & better for our view of tribal hunters. win win

[huntnfmly]

Here's an idea, Make all ceremonial hunts cow only. It would be better for the herd & better for our view of tribal hunters. win win

[PlateauNDN]

This makes me sick to my stomach......if they didn't care about the antlers why in the hell didn't they just shoot a cow! You can't tell me it's easier to find a big bull in velvet than a cow, on an animal reserve!!! I will keep my angry thoughts to myself on this one.  Thanks for finding out the info PlateauNDN.  Does this topic help you understand why we get so f n pissed with the whole damn subject, I'm sure it doesn't make you happy either.

I've been well aware of the frustrations for "some" tribal hunters for quite awhile but I didn't know the magnitude until I became aware of this site.  It's a good thing and a bad thing.  Good thing because it helps me understand how to address the issue and what steps to take in the future and bad thing because we as tribal hunters tend to get lumped in together and it makes us all look bad.

Here's an idea, Make all ceremonial hunts cow only. It would be better for the herd & better for our view of tribal hunters. win win

Again, I also agree with you on this one.  I don't hunt solely hunt for sport.  I start off with a couple of weeks of searching for a shooter and if the opportunity doesn't arise then I harvest does or cows for the meat.  They taste better and are easier to pack out.  Just to give you an idea of myself, over the last few years I've called in a few bulls but always having my wife and children with me they tend to get anxious and are noisy at times and it has scared some good bulls off but it hasn't stopped me because they learn every year more and more about the hunt.

Also, over the last few years i've only harvested a cow, 3 doe and one small buck.  I hunt with ethics and only hunt during the fall time.  I hunt to provide meat not bragging rights or a trophy that i couldn't fit in my house.  These tribal hunters do piss me off and some of the ones that have been mentioned on here I have had the displeasure of meeting and giving my opinion to them about what they are doing.

If it's one thing I have noticed about these few tribal hunters is they are all the same.  They are going no where in life and either live with their parents or grandparents and don't really care what happens with their kids.  It's all about themselves over their children and it's the complete opposite with me.

I take my wife and kids with me everywhere I go, except business trips.  We fish, hunt and gather traditional foods together because that's the way I was raised and I'm going to pass that on to my children because its our traditional ways. 

Teaching my children values, ethics and responsibility is just a small part of breaking this type of behavior by unethical hunters and I hope to change it in even more in the future.

Everybodies ideas on here have been truly noted and taken into consideration.  Again, I'm always available to answer questions and if you have ideas please keep sharing them.  The only way to fix this problem is by doing something not ignoring it.

[farmin4u_98948]

Thanks NDN....  You are doing a great job taking the wind out of some of the blow hards on this site... On another note. I saw some large bear tracks along one of my corn fields sunday morn. Its been a long time since that has happened.  Once again.... thankx