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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #315 on: April 19, 2012, 10:32:26 PM »
Machias, your elevated blood pressure is wasted arguing with Dallas, I mean Humanure.

I wish there was a way to get the real story, because something just doesn't add up. I could believe that the WDFW threw the Whites to the wolves, and the whites took matters in to their own hands. I might not condone it, but understand... But Why ship the pelt anywhere? Doesn't make any sense to me. If i were in their shoes , digging a hole or burying the carcase makes more sense, but shipping it?  :bash: Has to be more too it.... Wonder if they will speak out after they are done with their legal problems.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #316 on: April 19, 2012, 10:35:06 PM »
One might think I'm clueless, but whatev's. It's my opinion, you either take it or leave it. I was referring to actual farms that survive off their animals, not commercial cattle manufacturing plants.

They shipped the pelt in payment for a Canadian friend letting them illegally use his hunting tag to kill a moose and deer, which they later illegally brought back to the US. Or so were told. Semms plausable, though, with the evidence before us.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #317 on: April 19, 2012, 10:39:42 PM »
You have no evidence your not the court. 

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #318 on: April 19, 2012, 10:43:16 PM »
we do have the evidence that the state has seized and released info about. No I'm not the court, but I am allowed to have an opinion based on what we've seen so far.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #319 on: April 19, 2012, 11:01:57 PM »
What you read from unreliable bias  corporate media or just some lame woofers sheep banging sight.  Just my opinion of you.

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #320 on: April 19, 2012, 11:04:16 PM »
Cool. Want a cookie?
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #321 on: April 19, 2012, 11:12:52 PM »
Machias, your elevated blood pressure is wasted arguing with Dallas, I mean Humanure.

I wish there was a way to get the real story, because something just doesn't add up. I could believe that the WDFW threw the Whites to the wolves, and the whites took matters in to their own hands. I might not condone it, but understand... But Why ship the pelt anywhere? Doesn't make any sense to me. If i were in their shoes , digging a hole or burying the carcase makes more sense, but shipping it?  :bash: Has to be more too it.... Wonder if they will speak out after they are done with their legal problems.

Your so right. 
I do believe Bill will someday be able to discuss this with us.  I am in no way saying they did not make mistakes, that they did not do wrong.  I have made mistakes myself.  All I am saying is they are not the horrible people the other side would have you believe.  They are hard working folks who screwed up, they'll be the first to tell you that.  I do think they felt they were backed into a corner.  How they handled it was not the best and I'm sure if they could do it all over again they would have made better/different choices.  All I hope is once they have paid their debt they can get on with their lives.  I do think it's sad they have to pay $38,000 for something a person a few hundred miles to the north of them can do on a daily basis without a care in the world, or a person a couple of hundred miles to the east of them can do for $11.  That makes no sense to me.  Heck to the north of them there is a Canadian Provedence that will be killing 6000 wolves over the next 5 years or so, but just a little ways away a families life has been wrecked.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #322 on: April 19, 2012, 11:57:58 PM »
I would love for you to describe to me what his pasture looks like since you obviously have visited it and know it so well. 

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #323 on: April 20, 2012, 01:46:10 AM »
One might think I'm clueless, but whatev's. It's my opinion, you either take it or leave it. I was referring to actual farms that survive off their animals, not commercial cattle manufacturing plants.They shipped the pelt in payment for a Canadian friend letting them illegally use his hunting tag to kill a moose and deer, which they later illegally brought back to the US. Or so were told. Semms plausable, though, with the evidence before us.

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #324 on: April 20, 2012, 01:49:34 AM »
Off to shepard my 1000 head of cattle that I commercially raise but dont survive off of.............   :mor:


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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #325 on: April 20, 2012, 02:07:10 AM »
Do I have to spell it out? Self sustainability.
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #326 on: April 20, 2012, 07:18:41 AM »
A few pages back a poster said they identified the problem to WDFW well in advance and over a period of time....and were repeatedly told 'there were no wolves' and offered no guidance/assistance(?) by the WDFW.  I don't know the actual specifics or what was documented, but from that post it sounds like WDFW 'threw them to the wolves'.

 :yeah:

If I were in their shoes and WDFW kept saying there were no wolves, I might have done the same thing.......except probably would have shipped the pelt to WDFW headquarters. :twocents:  :)

(just joking)

But really, can you imagine how they must have felt, repeatedly getting told that they are crazy......there are no wolves?  Or that isn't a wolf kill?  I refuse to blame them for taking out some wolves that should be shot anyway.   I'd say WDFW drove them to vigilantism.....and WDFW should share a little bit of blame here. :twocents:
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #327 on: April 20, 2012, 09:24:26 AM »
non-profit basis, 8 way and more crosses hardier specimens parasite resistance. brush fed off the natural landscape, free of drugs. Completely natural.  make yarn out of the wool.

You've spoke more than enough in this one post for me to make a perfect assumption of the person you are.  Now go back and sit on Mitch's lap. :) .......and NO, I'm not  :sry:  ;)

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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #328 on: April 20, 2012, 09:27:49 AM »
You guys are killing me by quoting humanure all the time.  It makes it almost like he is not on "ignore"..........
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Re: Twisp family denies killing gray wolves - Wenatchee World
« Reply #329 on: April 20, 2012, 10:20:37 AM »
When government creates a problem, does not listen to its citizens, and gives them no real action for relief, how can you expect an otherwise law abiding citizen to not become a "criminal"?

Humanure, since you have been ringing the words  of self sustainability a lot, Do you know what an Eathship is?
 http://earthship.com/
I have been trying to figure out if one has been made in this state so that i can visit it... Any clue or direction?
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