nicking away prey instinct?

[huntnfmly]

Happy,
     Why do you feel i should put the collar away?I am useing the collar now to renforce the commands he already knows is that not the correct way?That is how i was advised to use it.He was collar cond.and knows how to turn the collar off.I did not even buy one until he knew the commands.I know you have been doing it alot longer than myself so i do apreciate the advice and input

[Happy Gilmore]

Happy,
     Why do you feel i should put the collar away?I am useing the collar now to renforce the commands he already knows is that not the correct way?That is how i was advised to use it.He was collar cond.and knows how to turn the collar off.I did not even buy one until he knew the commands.I know you have been doing it alot longer than myself so i do apreciate the advice and input

You shouldn't need to reinforce basic commands such as heal with a collar in my mind. Back up and work obedience on lead versus using corrections via e-collar. Later in training when there is more going on around you and dog, you can use the e-collar corrections more effectively for indirect pressure corrections on things such as breaking the dog to shot. I personally, (many disagree) don't use e-collar for basic obedience except when collar conditioning the dog. At a year old, my opinion is the dog should just be learning about collar conditioning not getting corrections as part of training. That is my opinion only not any type of rule. that is why I said put the collar away.

What commands are you confident the dog knows 100%? Heal, whoa? At a year old I don't think using the collar alot on either is a good idea. Certainly not using it for a correction when the dogs attention span slips a bit. That is just a sign of immaturity and maybe a little boredom in training.

[huntnfmly]

Happy,
     Why do you feel i should put the collar away?I am useing the collar now to renforce the commands he already knows is that not the correct way?That is how i was advised to use it.He was collar cond.and knows how to turn the collar off.I did not even buy one until he knew the commands.I know you have been doing it alot longer than myself so i do apreciate the advice and input

You shouldn't need to reinforce basic commands such as heal with a collar in my mind. Back up and work obedience on lead versus using corrections via e-collar. Later in training when there is more going on around you and dog, you can use the e-collar corrections more effectively for indirect pressure corrections on things such as breaking the dog to shot. I personally, (many disagree) don't use e-collar for basic obedience except when collar conditioning the dog. At a year old, my opinion is the dog should just be learning about collar conditioning not getting corrections as part of training. That is my opinion only not any type of rule. that is why I said put the collar away.

What commands are you confident the dog knows 100%? Heal, whoa? At a year old I don't think using the collar alot on either is a good idea. Certainly not using it for a correction when the dogs attention span slips a bit. That is just a sign of immaturity and maybe a little boredom in training.

hey happy
   Thanks for your reply again.I am confident he knows here/sit-stay/heal kennel 100% without alot of distraction so iam slowly adding that and he is doing better with distraction.I started off on a lead with pressure on/pressure off with these commands until he had them down without any pressure then i put on e-collar without turning it on and continued with pressure on pressure off for about two weeks for him to get use to e-collar being on then i used the ecollar with lead pressure on and off.He learned he could turn of the ecollar as well and now i only have to nick him every once in awhile.his attention slipping abit sometimes do to immaturity and boredom is a good point so i try to shorten up some training time but i always end on a good note.Thanks again i am sure this conversation helps others as well as me.I would also like to get him to sit at a distance do you have any drills that have worked

[Happy Gilmore]

teach sit next to you. 5 feet from you, 10 feet from you etc. Put a whistle with it. toot. Not sure how many people teach pointers a sit but, most don't to my knowledge. At least not a remote sit.