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Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« on: July 07, 2011, 08:03:02 AM »
Just curious to see the amount of conspiracy theory folks out there.
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 08:11:16 AM »
I picked "NO", buy only because there was no third option (boobies and beer).

Personllay, I don't care. They are there, and it is likely that they could have migrated.

Am I happy they are there? No, not at all  :bash:
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 08:11:53 AM »
Well two points, if the DNA results say they are the Large version from Idaho, Montana and Wyoming then I say there's a damn good chance of it.  If however they are the smaller version that's come down from BC, what's to say they are not the wolves that were supposedly poached near Twisp?  They keep saying that pack went from 12 to 15 animals to 2, what's to say they did not just up and move?
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 08:13:06 AM »
Well two points, if the DNA results say they are the Large version from Idaho, Montana and Wyoming then I say there's a damn good chance of it.  If however they are the smaller version that's come down from BC, what's to say they are not the wolves that were supposedly poached near Twisp?  They keep saying that pack went from 12 to 15 animals to 2, what's to say they did not just up and move?

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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 10:41:22 AM »
It's been almost 20 years now since I saw wolves near Wenatchee Lake.  I always assumed those wolves traveled from Canada to get there.  It's not all that far from Wenatchee Lake to the Teanaway, so why would it be so hard to believe that wolves from Canada could end up in Teanaway??? 

Now, with that said, I also think it is possible that some wolf lover types maybe did drop off some wolves to help try to get them established.

Maybe I am naive, but I just don't see WDFW doing any sort of sanctioned wolf planting anywhere in the state.  Granted they have been infiltrated with a bunch of predator loving people, but I just have a hard time believing they would risk planting wolves; it seems like it would be very hard for a public agency like that to keep plantings secret.
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 11:24:51 AM »
It's been almost 20 years now since I saw wolves near Wenatchee Lake.  I always assumed those wolves traveled from Canada to get there.  It's not all that far from Wenatchee Lake to the Teanaway, so why would it be so hard to believe that wolves from Canada could end up in Teanaway??? 

Now, with that said, I also think it is possible that some wolf lover types maybe did drop off some wolves to help try to get them established.

Maybe I am naive, but I just don't see WDFW doing any sort of sanctioned wolf planting anywhere in the state.  Granted they have been infiltrated with a bunch of predator loving people, but I just have a hard time believing they would risk planting wolves; it seems like it would be very hard for a public agency like that to keep plantings secret.

It's not hard to believe that at all, in fact, if I was a betting man that's what I would conclude.....unless they are the wolves from ID, MT and WY....then I think they got a ride.
 
Think about this, the smaller BC wolf will not be able to withstand the colonization of the wolves from ID, MT and WY.  In other words an invasive species will wipe out a native species. 
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 01:00:58 PM »
I voted yes only because 1 out of the 4 that i saw and posted a vague pic on here had a collar on it. I suppose it could have migrated from somewhere with a collar on it already, but i doubt it.

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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 01:15:15 PM »
Well two points, if the DNA results say they are the Large version from Idaho, Montana and Wyoming then I say there's a damn good chance of it.  If however they are the smaller version that's come down from BC, what's to say they are not the wolves that were supposedly poached near Twisp?  They keep saying that pack went from 12 to 15 animals to 2, what's to say they did not just up and move?

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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 01:18:16 PM »
I don't think WDFW planted them. But I wouldn't be surprised if conservation northwest did....
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 03:28:52 PM »
It's been almost 20 years now since I saw wolves near Wenatchee Lake.  I always assumed those wolves traveled from Canada to get there.  It's not all that far from Wenatchee Lake to the Teanaway, so why would it be so hard to believe that wolves from Canada could end up in Teanaway??? 

Now, with that said, I also think it is possible that some wolf lover types maybe did drop off some wolves to help try to get them established.

Maybe I am naive, but I just don't see WDFW doing any sort of sanctioned wolf planting anywhere in the state.  Granted they have been infiltrated with a bunch of predator loving people, but I just have a hard time believing they would risk planting wolves; it seems like it would be very hard for a public agency like that to keep plantings secret.

It's not hard to believe that at all, in fact, if I was a betting man that's what I would conclude.....unless they are the wolves from ID, MT and WY....then I think they got a ride.
 
Think about this, the smaller BC wolf will not be able to withstand the colonization of the wolves from ID, MT and WY.  In other words an invasive species will wipe out a native species.



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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 03:31:09 PM »
I don't think WDFW planted them. But I wouldn't be surprised if conservation northwest did....

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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 04:49:07 PM »
You guys... sheesh.

The WDFW obviously didn't dump these animals.

If the WDFW tried to enhance an animal population, they'd never survive.
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 06:42:44 PM »
You guys... sheesh.

The WDFW obviously didn't dump these animals.

If the WDFW tried to enhance an animal population, they'd never survive.
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What do you mean, we can't know as they havenever tried to enhance an animal population.

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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2011, 07:17:09 PM »
You guys... sheesh.

The WDFW obviously didn't dump these animals.

If the WDFW tried to enhance an animal population, they'd never survive.
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 I don't know if WDFW is directly involved in releasing wolves. I am not sure what would happen if it were ever directly proven that they have or that they did. I'd venture nothing. USDFW has been caught and it proven that they plant evidence to farther thier ESA agendas. So no, I don't trust them, either of them. They work behind the scene with C NW & DFW, that is my opinion. I don't believe those groups are up to any good. They so desperately want a massive wolf presence in Washington. They do not care what the consequence of their actions will be. It will be interesting if the wolves go West instead of East. The question is will WDFW relocate them outside of King County. While those folkes demand all these programs I'd venture they would never allow them in their lives to be impacted. Maybe I am wrong there. We will see.
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Re: Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 07:36:50 AM »
About 3 years ago a friend of mine told me about 2 cow moose that he spotted in the teanaway both with radio collars on, at that time there had not been any reported siting in our valley, so most folks figured that he saw cow elk instead,
the following  year moose reports with pictures confirmed that moose were moving into the valley, I know of at least 4 different moose now with one being born this year, point is we dont know what the WDFG is up to, who else has access to radio collars.

 


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