Did WDFW really plant wolves in Teanaway?

[whacker1]

About 3 years ago a friend of mine told me about 2 cow moose that he spotted in the teanaway both with radio collars on, at that time there had not been any reported siting in our valley, so most folks figured that he saw cow elk instead,
the following  year moose reports with pictures confirmed that moose were moving into the valley, I know of at least 4 different moose now with one being born this year, point is we dont know what the WDFG is up to, who else has access to radio collars.

tribes, W.S.U., and likely other institutions.

[bearpaw]

I voted no because I think wolves are expanding and multiplying just like they did in Idaho. Anyone can buy radio collars but collars are identifiable and ownership could be traced so I doubt anyone but WDFW is collaring wildlife.

However, when you consider the recent Fast & Furious scandal in BATF of selling guns to drug cartels, then think of the misapropriation of funds by USFWS that was exposed in congress by Jim Beers and was used to fund wolf introduction in Idaho/YNP, then look at the ties that Defenders of Wildlife and Conservation Northwest have with the WDFW. No wonder nobody trusts the state on wolf management.

Has anybody been keeping a head count at wolf haven. 

[Heartsblood]

I said "no" because I don't think the WDFW like to manage wildlife all that much. Why would they add to a situation when they already have trouble doing the job in the first place? 

[Cougeyes]

Why would the state plant wolves when their wolf management plan isn't even complete.  Seems like a dumb idea to relase them knowing the plan isn't done and all the pressure that would come to get it finalized. 

[Alchase]

Here is a Seattle Times article, with pics of the wolves in Teanaway, note the dates on the pics!
 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/fieldnotes/2015546358_summer_research_counting_wolf_pups_and_hunting_grizzly_bear_hair.html
 
My question of how many more "not yet called packs" are they observing and tracking?

[jackmaster]

You guys... sheesh.

The WDFW obviously didn't dump these animals.

If the WDFW tried to enhance an animal population, they'd never survive.
 

 

 I don't know if WDFW is directly involved in releasing wolves. I am not sure what would happen if it were ever directly proven that they have or that they did. I'd venture nothing. USDFW has been caught and it proven that they plant evidence to farther thier ESA agendas. So no, I don't trust them, either of them. They work behind the scene with C NW & DFW, that is my opinion. I don't believe those groups are up to any good. They so desperately want a massive wolf presence in Washington. They do not care what the consequence of their actions will be. It will be interesting if the wolves go West instead of East. The question is will WDFW relocate them outside of King County. While those folkes demand all these programs I'd venture they would never allow them in their lives to be impacted. Maybe I am wrong there. We will see.

if they werent directly resposible, then they damn sure know who is....

[UBA]

Someone fitted them with collars so someone knows where they came from or trapped. I think someone dumped um off prefitted with radio collars and waited til now to confirm a pack. If they did migrate in look at all the great land they traveled thru to get there. Why did they choose that area? Well because that's where they opened the cage.

[colockumelk]

Someone fitted them with collars so someone knows where they came from or trapped. I think someone dumped um off prefitted with radio collars and waited til now to confirm a pack. If they did migrate in look at all the great land they traveled thru to get there. Why did they choose that area? Well because that's where they opened the cage.

 

[turbo]

I said no because it's a collaboration of leftists extremists groups that will eventually lobby and win the power to restrict our rights as public land users/owners in the name of protection.

I will kill any wolf I see!

[dreamunelk]

Guy's remember the antelope!  Look how long they tried to reintroduce.  The wdfw can not introduce a species with out jumping through endless bureaucracy.   Seriously if they started today I bet it would be 10 - 20 years before they could.  If they were planted or moved with out following the rules it would be a career end for all individuals involved.  Not sure but I would not be surprised if criminal charges would follow.  I bet even the rancher who's cow they snacked (if they did) on would have a hell of a law suit.

As for the special interest groups, well they seem to get away with everything!

[grundy53]

Its different when your the one that makes up and enforces the rules...

[WAcoyotehunter]

you guys have been saying that wolves were in the area for a long time...why would there be a conspiracy theory now? 

The WDFW responded to wolf sightings and got a collar in the pack.  Good for them.  We should be thrilled that they're doing something.

[Arrow]

   I travel a lot in northern ID and everybody I talk to say the wolf populations have really done a number on their elk herds. I know there are only a few in Teanaway but these animals reproduce at a fast rate and travel great distances so if left alone this could turn out to be a bigger issue for everyone not just in Teanaway. Im not saying they are not doing anything but I feel ever hunter needs to pay attention to this topic because it could have a big impact on future hunts all accross WA.
   The below pictures are from northern ID. Notice how they corner the elk in a spot where she is traped with nowhere to go and the one wolf on her back. These are very smart and big animals especially when they are in a pack.   

[bearpaw]

There is a lot of solid information coming out of Idaho, Montana, Alaska, and Canada about wolves. Idaho for example is managing for a sustainable population of wolves but they have learned from experience that wolves must be managed to fit into the modern environment and to prevent significant herd losses such as happened in the Lolo and is happening in the St Joe and other areas. It has been a transition for their game department, they started out by wanting more wolves than are suitable for local envoronments, but due to public demands and dieing elk herds IDFG is slowly evolving and beginning to work with, rather than against local people to salvage the remaining herds. Just in the last month wolf management has changed in Idaho, Washington is still running at the 1995 mentality in wolf management.

I have yet to see any indication that WDFW wants to work with local people. Their endangered species division appears to be controlled by Defenders of Wildlife and similar organizations. The wolf plan that has been presented is based on a lot of disneylike wolf propaganda based on the Isle Royal model of wolf biology. Guess what, Isle Royal wolves have eaten themselves into extinction, they are down to 2 female wolves and its questionable if wolves will die out comppletely.

WDFW should talk to the Idaho F&G about their on the ground experience with wolves to develop the WA wolf plan. Our Wildlife Commission should be talking with Idaho's commission. Those commissioners have seen first hand what happens with wolf mismanagement.

They made a big deal about the peer review of the washington wolf plan, nobody knows who any of those people even are, it should have been peer reviewed by biologists familiar with recent game management in Idaho, Montana, and Canada.

[jackelope]

I have yet to see any indication that WDFW wants to work with local people. Their endangered species division appears to be controlled by Defenders of Wildlife and similar organizations. The wolf plan that has been presented is based on a lot of disneylike wolf propaganda based on the Isle Royal model of wolf biology. Guess what, Isle Royal wolves have eaten themselves into extinction, they are down to 2 wolves and its questionable if wolves will die out comppletely.

Do you have a source for this info?