The End For Endangered Caribou?

[deerslyr]

Ive forgotten that washington held a small herd of caribou, undoubtebly they will be wiped out. Has anyone seen any of these caribou or have pics of them? truly an endangered species

[bloodhound]

i think it dumb to have wolfs here. we have to many predators as it is. i think they should open wa to kill them all. and then spend money to bring in pronghorn and rebuild the caribou population so we can hunt those!!

[boneaddict]

You'll note at all the trailheads over there all of the caribou signs are gone and fresh bright wolf ones are up.   What does that tell you?

[Skyvalhunter]

Might be time to complain about not having the caribou and antelope in the area and getting them on the endangered list since thats what it took for the wolf lovers to get them started. But then again they have a different adgenda.

[boneaddict]

You'll note that for the most part, predator species always seem to be a higher priority to protect than prey species.  Hawks, cougar etc. come to mind.   

[CedarPants]

Is there anything Hunt-WA can do about this?  Maybe get something started in the way of voicing serious concern over this?  I find it highly ridiculous that organizations and government entities would go so far as to see the eradication of one species (caribou) to be nothing more than just collateral damage for the reintroduction of another species (wolves).  What is the point of going to court to stop delisting one endangered species while completely ignoring another?  Ideas???

[pianoman9701]

Not to mention the eradication of the state's native wolves by introducing the new ones. There's another topic. There are so many negative aspects of the WDFW's plan that one would think they've picked their plan with an Ouija board. The whole thing is just bizarre.

[CedarPants]

Exactly.  Is there a platform available to us (or anyone for that matter) where we can get these concerns out there?  People seem to have no problem filing lawsuits regarding wolves, what's to stop the same type of process for caribou?  Is there anything in writing from WDFW as to how they plan on addressing the wolves impact on caribou, and if not - how do we demand that from them?  I don't think they have the luxury of just taking a mulligan on this one, but I also don't think anything will be done unless we start making some serious noise right now

[sebek556]

You'll note that for the most part, predator species always seem to be a higher priority to protect than prey species.  Hawks, cougar etc. come to mind.   

anti hunters have figured out that they can never out right ban hunting as much as they would love to. So instead they protect and jack up the predator populations so kill off the prey we want to hunt.

[pianoman9701]

Exactly.  Is there a platform available to us (or anyone for that matter) where we can get these concerns out there?  People seem to have no problem filing lawsuits regarding wolves, what's to stop the same type of process for caribou?  Is there anything in writing from WDFW as to how they plan on addressing the wolves impact on caribou, and if not - how do we demand that from them?  I don't think they have the luxury of just taking a mulligan on this one, but I also don't think anything will be done unless we start making some serious noise right now

Write a letter and encourage your friends to, as well. The hearing is next Thursday the 4th.

[724wd]

the animal rights groups are filing lawsuits.  you need the help of the big groups (RMEF, Mule Deer fed, etc) to counter them with protecting the prey species.  i dont know of a caribou group... 

[CedarPants]

Ya that's more what I meant, a large organized group with a voice.  I'll definitely be sending my letter off but I fear the letters trickling in are just brushed aside. 

[high country]

as much as I like to screw with the wolftards, the caribou have really screwed up the economy in the ne wa and priest lake area. the area used to be the mecca for snowmobiles, but now with the elusive grey ghost, they have killed off an increasing amount of land to protect the bou'. the oddity is the area closed holds relativly no winter food for the animals, but was popular to the huggers as well as sledders. the bou' bears and now wolves are getting doors slammed on us all over on this side.

[high country]

preiest lake *censored*s have a bou group. you will be funding the enemy.

[CedarPants]

My complaint is more on the inconsistent management of endangered species, that's it.  The doors have already been slammed shut on snowmobiling because of caribou - I had nothing to do with that nor do I appreciate your insinuation that I'm interested in funding the enemy. 

My point is merely that we need to hold the state accountable for consistent game management.  I'm on your side here High Country.  Do I agree with the lands being closed because of the caribou?  Not really.  Since the state closed the lands to protect the caribou, do I think they should now be held accountable for explaining what they intend to do about managing the wolves' impact on this protected herd?  Absolutely.  Last I checked, recreational snowmobilers didn't hunt down and kill caribou.  Wolves do.  Only one of us is regulated (managed) though and I'd like some answers