Author Topic: death by rut? (Read 7551 times)

kalamasasquatch · « **on:** July 17, 2011, 12:43:59 AM »

while scouting last week, I found this dead bull with his pedicle broken from his skull. The spine and other bones were relativly intact making me think that the skull was broken upon death.....what do you guys think?

kalamasasquatch · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2011, 12:47:50 AM »

oops....heres the pics....

huntnnw · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:10:27 AM »

very well could have...odd that it would be busted that way just laying there. cool find tho

MADMAX · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:26:48 AM »

Nice find
lucky

3nails · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2011, 07:27:24 AM »

Bigfoot.

YoterHunter · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2011, 03:51:05 PM »

cool find. if the horn broke of like. that very well could have looks like a mached set of sheds

SemperFidelis97 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2011, 10:39:43 PM »

Very nice find congrats honestly suprised the antlers are that intact usually the little critters in the woods have them chewed on pretty good by now.

Swannytheswan · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2011, 10:55:02 PM »

I've heard of deer killing each other during the rut...I think it was mostly from exhaustion but I guess if they hit hard enough it could have broke like that and killed him

wsucowboy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2011, 11:36:29 PM »

could be

cool find tho

PlateauNDN · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:39:09 AM »

Quote from: 3nails on July 17, 2011, 07:27:24 AM

Bigfoot.

Definitely Bigfoot in that area!

C-Money · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:42:29 AM »

Your theory sounds very logical. Doubt he tripped, fell and hit his head. Nice find!

carpsniperg2 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:44:03 AM »

Very cool find! It's hard to say what might of happened, but your idea is one that would come to mind.

Houndhunter · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:29:22 AM »

take em home, they count as sheds if they aint attached to the skull lol

Alan K · « **Reply #13 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:33:03 AM »

Man that's crazy! Would love to know if it was in fact via fighting or if it was just broke off during the scavenging. Neat find!

Shed Stud · « **Reply #14 on:** July 19, 2011, 07:50:07 AM »

I would guess the skull was lying antler down and a bear stomped it off while checking it out. Crazy pile of bone there. Thanks for sharing.

400out · « **Reply #15 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:43:20 PM »

Quote from: 3nails on July 17, 2011, 07:27:24 AM

Bigfoot.

must be the blues

briancorneal · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:00:34 PM »

Looks like that guy tangled up with the wrong bull.

bench beast · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:32:10 PM »

nice find

TopOfTheFoodChain · « **Reply #18 on:** July 26, 2011, 02:30:59 PM »

Buddy saw a couple bulls fighting in the Manastash during muzzy season three years ago. Said one was running downhill full tilt and the other running up hill when they locked up. Looked like a couple of rams on the first hit! He said the sound when they first hit was incredible. Nothing broke in that fight but one could imagine it happening....

bow4elk · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2011, 10:57:23 PM »

Back when I did a lot of field work with elk biologists, I learned this does happen from time to time. Bulls will get locked up and break a pedicle while trying to separate. The forces they exert during a sparring match are all forward and down but as they realize they are stuck they panic and try to pull away while twisting and bucking. It's clear from the photo that in this case, the skull broke below the pedicle, which would have caused certain death. In any case, it's an interesting find for sure. Thanks for sharing!

bloodhound · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2011, 11:06:36 PM »

im more so noticing the pumice ground and wondering where you are at around mt st helens.

as for the rack i would think it probably happened after death. either predators or another animal stepped on it under snow, or while trying to drag it.

remington300mag · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2011, 11:11:28 PM »

Here is my question....Why is the area where the antler attaches to the head a lot brighter white on the antler that is broke off than the antler still attached to the head?

Almost like it has been off the skull longer or decomposed before the rest of the skull did......

bloodhound · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2011, 11:22:37 PM »

skull might have been half buried so the one part got more sun bleaching

ELKBURGER · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2011, 08:26:01 AM »

looks like Mt. St. Helens area to me too. I've found dead heads before that were split or broke and it probably due to bear or other elk trampling in the snow. But so much happens out there we dont get a chance to see. Maybe sasquatch needed a back scratcher

mikesenescall · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2011, 12:30:37 PM »

Quote from: 3nails on July 17, 2011, 07:27:24 AM

Bigfoot.

Big foot hahahahhahah

Woodchuck · « **Reply #25 on:** August 30, 2011, 12:44:08 PM »

I have seen it happen.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,35011.msg410195.html#msg410195

BENCHLEG · « **Reply #26 on:** September 10, 2011, 12:06:18 AM »

well i have seen the rack, it sits in bobs sporting goods in longview, just as you come in the door to the right. sweet find keep up the good work and good luck on your hunt.

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