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Bear Baiting Legal?
« on: June 13, 2008, 07:31:19 PM »
What is the latest with this?http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/june2004/bear.htm
I heard a little bit about it a few years ago but nothing new. Just curious. I would think that if the baiting initiative was done incorrectly I would think the same would hold true for hound hunting on the same initiative. Anyone have any new news?

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2008, 07:44:00 PM »
kind of sounds like the judges think it should be lkegal, but sounds like Fish and wildlife are the only ones that care.......

still stated in the regs though.......No baiting of bears, so untill it says otherwise im a straight arrow!

sure would like to bait if i could though!

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 09:16:04 PM »
I wonder where this stands now since the district court ruling makes perfect sense.  When you have a statewide public initiative it MUST encompass only ONE issue.  The initiative banned bear baiting and hunting with hounds, which are TWO issues and thus one can argue that some folks voted on hound hunting while some others voted on baiting and the combined total is what passed the ban.

This type of issue was replayed when the state passed another public initiated concerning certain traps as well as certain types of poison.  I believe the State Supreme Court ruled in favor of the initiative in that particular case (though I believe they were wrong).

We'll just have to wait and see.

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 11:01:23 PM »
it is illegal to bait bears during hunting season! but is it illegal to put biodegradable food in the woods? Meaning say you have a left over food pile in the woods and bears start coming into it! A few weeks before august 1st you add some vanillia to the left overs then the day of the season you pour vinillia in the area the food was? You have stoped throwing your left overs away, and are using a scent to attract and hopefully harvest your animal! Is this legal?
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 11:09:02 PM »
Nope.  The use of bait or any other attractants, including scents is illegal for bear.

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 08:21:32 PM »
doesn't sound like a ticket would hold up in court to me, but it sure would cause you a lot of hassle.
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008, 08:39:12 PM »
if i remember correctly....you may use any scents you like for bears but it can not be anything they can eat or taste

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 05:46:15 AM »
if i remember correctly....you may use any scents you like for bears but it can not be anything they can eat or taste

Scent is against the law.




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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 09:05:37 AM »
Can you just cook bacon in the morning and slobber ot all over yourself?  Is that still legal? :chuckle:
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 09:09:46 AM »
Just happen to let the bacon grease drip all over the tree you tree stand is in ;)

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2008, 09:26:27 PM »
Bring it with you.....mmmmmmmm, bacon, egg and syrup sandwich..... :EAT:
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 04:08:39 PM »
if someone could please point me to a page or location where i can read that scent is illegal i would appreciate it.....there is nothing that i can find in the regs.....if it is illegal then i have come across some mighty powerful perfume on some people in the woods

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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 04:26:18 PM »
It would seem kind of dumb to put scent on anyway after all you don't want a bear getting that close to you don't you think ??   :dunno:

And if you put the stuff on a rag on the ground 20 yds away it would be considered bait then wouldn't it ??  :dunno:
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 04:34:03 PM »
Here is the abomination........ :(



RCW 77.15.245
Unlawful practices -- Black bear baiting -- Exceptions -- Illegal hunting -- Use of dogs -- Exceptions -- Penalties.
(1) Notwithstanding the provisions of RCW 77.12.240, 77.36.020, 77.36.030, or any other provisions of law, it is unlawful to take, hunt, or attract black bear with the aid of bait.

     (a) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the killing of black bear with the aid of bait by employees or agents of county, state, or federal agencies while acting in their official capacities for the purpose of protecting livestock, domestic animals, private property, or the public safety.

     (b) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prevent the establishment and operation of feeding stations for black bear in order to prevent damage to commercial timberland.

     (c) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the director from issuing a permit or memorandum of understanding to a public agency, university, or scientific or educational institution for the use of bait to attract black bear for scientific purposes.

     (d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.

     (2) Notwithstanding RCW 77.12.240, 77.36.020, 77.36.030, or any other provisions of law, it is unlawful to hunt or pursue black bear, cougar, bobcat, or lynx with the aid of a dog or dogs.

     (a) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the killing of black bear, cougar, bobcat, or lynx with the aid of a dog or dogs by employees or agents of county, state, or federal agencies while acting in their official capacities for the purpose of protecting livestock, domestic animals, private property, or the public safety. A dog or dogs may be used by the owner or tenant of real property consistent with a permit issued and conditioned by the director.

     (b) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the director from issuing a permit or memorandum of understanding to a public agency, university, or scientific or educational institution for the use of a dog or dogs for the pursuit, capture and relocation, of black bear, cougar, bobcat, or lynx for scientific purposes.

     (c) Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to prohibit the director from issuing a permit or memorandum of understanding to a public agency, university, or scientific or educational institution for the use of a dog or dogs for the killing of black bear, cougar, or bobcat, for the protection of a state and/or federally listed threatened or endangered species.

     (3)(a) Notwithstanding subsection (2) of this section, the commission shall authorize the use of dogs only in selected areas within a game management unit to address a public safety need presented by one or more cougar. This authority may only be exercised after the commission has determined that no other practical alternative to the use of dogs exists, and after the commission has adopted rules describing the conditions in which dogs may be used. Conditions that may warrant the use of dogs within a game management unit include, but are not limited to, confirmed cougar/human safety incidents, confirmed cougar/livestock and cougar/pet depredations, and the number of cougar capture attempts and relocations.

     (b) The department shall post on their internet web site the known details of all reported cougar/human, cougar/pet, or cougar/livestock interactions within ten days of receiving the report. The posted material must include, but is not limited to, the location and time of all reported sightings, and the known details of any cougar/livestock incidents.

     (4) A person who violates subsection (1) or (2) of this section is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. In addition to appropriate criminal penalties, the department shall revoke the hunting license of a person who violates subsection (1) or (2) of this section and order the suspension of wildlife hunting privileges for a period of five years following the revocation. Following a subsequent violation of subsection (1) or (2) of this section by the same person, a hunting license shall not be issued to the person at any time.


[2005 c 107 § 1; 2001 c 253 § 31. Prior: 2000 c 248 § 1; 2000 c 107 § 260; 1997 c 1 § 1 (Initiative Measure No. 655, approved November 5, 1996). Formerly RCW 77.16.360.]

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Effective date -- 2000 c 248: "This act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, or safety, or support of the state government and its existing public institutions, and takes effect immediately [March 31, 2000]." [2000 c 248 § 2.]


Severability -- 1997 c 1 (Initiative Measure No. 655): "If any provision of this act or its application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, the remainder of the act or the application of the provision to other persons or circumstances is not affected." [1997 c 1 § 2 (Initiative Measure No. 655, approved November 5, 1996).]
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Re: Bear Baiting Legal?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 04:49:37 PM »
Thanks alot Passion. Life was just a little happier before I read that!  :yike: I would have bet money that scents were ok. I used some Anise a few years back but don't anymore it just got everywhere and I hate the smell. I would have thought nothing of useing scents.  :dunno:

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