Hanford Bulls

[ribka]

I am curious as to who the wheelers are.  Maybe I have been under a rock or something.  I would like to see the tribes start to back up there talk with some action.  If they were really serious about wanting to be a partner in this they would take away the rights of those caught doing these thing and get some great P.R. at the same time. I realize they have their rights and that is a fact of life to be dealt with until we can all sit down and do whats right for all concerned.  I am a member of a tribe that is not federally recognized so I see things a little differently than most since I have Indian heritage but no rights. 

Mr. Wheeler is an enrolled member of the Yakama Nation who is a successful business owner who owns multiple businesses and in particular Wheeler Logging Co. And King Mountain Cigarettes for example.

I think he is experiencing some legal issues now due to his questionable business conduct:

http://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/2011/2/16/feds-raid-tobacco-company-on-reservation
 

[Bigtine96]

Isnt that the big typ[ical that was pictured with Mr Mass in velvet that looked monsterouse??/ Too bad he got hit.

Good call Charlie.  It looks like the same bull.  Look at his left G-5 how it is blunt at the tip and the end of the main beam (6th point) has the same curvature to it.  Real shame someone couldn't have hung their tag on it; someone like me...

Or better yet it could have been another Sovereign nation kill

[Little Red Wagon]

PlateauNDN
hows that excursion on gas? and how many bulls have you shot on hanford?

[hunterofelk]

You'd think this Wheeler guy could afford beef.

[PlateauNDN]

PlateauNDN
hows that excursion on gas? and how many bulls have you shot on hanford?

Sorry wagon but I don't own a ford nor ever will I'm a chevy and kind of a dodge man.  I haven't harvested any bulls on or near hanford mostly in wenas to klickitat meadows.  I do know that either YakNDN is either the one that shot Mr. Mass or is very close to the boy.  I've seen the huntnfishnw plus seen a facebook and know the boy holding the antlers with the excursion in the background.  So either YakNDN is putting on a front about who he is or he is the person that shot Mr. Mass.  Either way I could care less about the boywhos holding the antlers because he's no different than the other "hunter" that has slaughtered bulls from the colockum, about 7 bulls in 2 years I believe?  Everybody should know who I'm referring to.

[huntnphool]

Yak may know him but he is not the one who shot it and was not there on the hunt either.

[colockumelk]

I have no problem with the Yakamas utilizing their rights on the Hanford reservation. It's no different than using their rights in the Colockum. However I do have a problem with this. If the Hanford reservation is closed due to national security reasons then it should be closed for everyone.  Our national security is far more important than treaty rights in a place that has never had elk until now. If it is okay and not a breach of national security for the Yakamas to hunt there then it should be okay for us to hunt there as well. Via special permit or whatever. 

[Bigtine96]

Heres what i think.... Everyone who see's these big bulls in a area where us normal hunters can never hunt should keep our mouths shut and not run home to the internet to post a pic or tell the world about it. All these guys have to do is see a picture and get some info and decide mhmm, Maybe i'll go shoot that bull. I swear to god These hunting forums can be very cool and informative and a great place to share but they can also be destructive.

[danderson]

OK, everone agrees that theres some nice bulls on the Hanford Reservation, photos prove it, I would love to harvest a trophy bull elk someday, however the Quality of the hunt is determined by the hunters ability to outwit, and out think his quarie, dont let the actions of a few take away from ones own personal accomplisments, I would rather harvest a spike, knowing I did my best, didnt break any laws, anyways there much more tasty.

[boneaddict]

Phool knows how good excursions are on gas.

[Coastal_native]

Nuclear Elk...Elk feeding stations...spike only areas....you dry side guys are crazy.  Who the heck would wanna hunt an elk that doesn't have anything to hide behind?  I would've let those bulls grow up. 

[blackveltbowhunter]

Heres what i think.... Everyone who see's these big bulls in a area where us normal hunters can never hunt should keep our mouths shut and not run home to the internet to post a pic or tell the world about it. All these guys have to do is see a picture and get some info and decide mhmm, Maybe i'll go shoot that bull. I swear to god These hunting forums can be very cool and informative and a great place to share but they can also be destructive.

   Personally I enjoy the pics that get posted up of these big bulls. I wouldnt otherwise have seen pics of Mr. Mass alive or any of these other studs if not for them. I enjoy any and all pics of big bulls, i even love going to NW Trek just to see em  , big horns are big horns.
   And I  appreciate the folks that post em up and have shared these pics. It honestly never occured to me to attempt to harvest any of these bulls, as I was under the impression that access was extremely difficult if not impossible and the bulls were essentially "reserve" bulls. And nothing from this thread has changed my mind.

[huntnphool]

Phool knows how good excursions are on gas.

 Actually I know how good they are on "fuel", mine is a diesel.

[Pathfinder101]

njc glad you posted pics of your dad's bull.  Couldn't have happened to a nicer fellow.   Has he scored him yet?  Even with the relatively short fronts he has to go well over 350...

[Legacy]

I remain amazed at how our tribes here in the Pacific NW (Yakama, Mucklehoots, etc) are so different that tribes in the SW (White Mtn, San Carlos, Acoma, Jicarilla, Navajo, Jualapai, Havasupi, etc). There, they understand the importance of managing their elk and their reservation wildlife for multiple use...not only for tribal food sustenance but also for the ability to generate income for their tribe through the sale of a limited number of tags which gives non-tribal member hunters an opportunity to purchase limited and exclusive tags and the treasured chance to harvest large, quality elk, deer, bear, antelope, mtn lions, etc. in limited numbers. Here, and when it comes to elk, alot of these posts lead me to the conclusion that our tribes seem to have confused a treaty right with a license to slaughter whatever, whenever and wherever they want (including closed areas like the Hanford Reservation), almost rubbing all non-tribal hunters' noses in it in their quest for killing what seems to be just for sake of killing.