MURRAY & CANTWELL ARE TRAITORS

[Machias]

BobW and Heartsblood you guys might be right, one small problem though:

BobW:  This is intended to make it hard on terrorists.
 
http://nation.foxnews.com/terrorism/2011/07/21/dhs-characterizes-terrorists-white-americans
 

[Heartsblood]

That was the one part on Bob's post I didn't really agree with, but I guarantee my disagreement is for waaay differnt reasons than most. I know that the language is suggestive of a purpose for thwarting so-called "terrorists" but. Bob said "it is inteded to make it hard on terrorists" which I am not convinced that this is the primary motivation.

The Un cannot change our constitution.
A little research would verufy that fact.
No one is coming for our guns.
Someone is benefiting from the fear mongering of this issue.

Those are the points I meant the for.

"Look to see who benefits..." and then we begin to see the true motives for such fear piece that seems to crop up every 8 years or so, and last equally as long...

[Heartsblood]

This is not about politics...

[SemperFidelis97]

Semper Fi my friend and fellow Marine, I have proably done more research in my 72 years than you can imagine.  Want to see proof.  I have letters back to Scoop Jackson and Warren Magnuson, and that my friend was proably before you were born.
GOA sent emails or letters out to ALL members.  I will ask again, what did the NRA do?  Wayne on the radio or television does not contact all the membership. 
The NRA has a lot of good members.  The upper management has thrown them under the bus on several occasions as of late.
 So lets just say I did not say anything about the NRA.  What are you thoughts on on over riding the Second  Amendment, and be regulated by the U.N.
Ghosthunter you are right.  We will not take it.

Semper Fi devil I was simply stating that the NRA has been proactive on this issue up to, and including standing up to the UN in person.  There are many of our brothers, and sisters in arms that gave their lives to protect this great nation we need to honor them by standing up for the ideals that they died for one of which is the second amendment.  The sharp words were meant for anyone who is reading this that complains about what goes on in our government, and its dealings with the UN while sitting at home on election day. 

[Jerbear]

                                 Amen Marine
You are right about not voting.  Maria Can't do anything well, is a classic example.  We had Slade Gorton, a hard working pro gun Senator.  People sat on the butts on election day, and look what we have.
I have voted in every election since 1960.  You had to be 21 to vote back then.  I have not missed an election since then.  I have written many letters to out elected officials,n and just went back and read some of them. Sad situation.
I wrote to Jackson, Magnuson, and our local Congress person, representing the Yakima area, Catherine May.  She was a Republican.  All three assures me that they would study the 1967 Gun Control act and vote for the good of the people.  All three voted for it.   And today, so far, the Republicans have not come up with someone to run against Maria. It just can't get any better.

[SemperFidelis97]

If the Republicans screw up this election then I really wonder if they will ever get it right with the right message, and some charismatic leaders it should be another bloodbath in november.  We shall see it seems the GOP has a nack for shooting itself in the foot at the finish line while the Dems practice the take no prisoners scorched earth approach to politics I think it will be an interesting next 5 months.  We need a little more clout in the legislative area for sure incase Obama slides in for another term I have high hopes for Bachman though we shall see how bad the media villifies her.

[dawei]

First I agree with the thoughts and observations of Jerbear; to me they are SPOT ON! I have lived in this state since 07/17/1987. I never ceased to be amazed at the apathy of the voters in this state. Those that bitch the most do the least as far as involving them selves in our governing process. Concurrently I further ceased to be amazed at the STUPIDITY of the voters. They would vote for a Chimpanzee if it has a "D" by it's name on the ballet!

This is not about terrorists! This is about the world community trying to bring down The United States of America! If obama and his lap dogs like murray & c*ntwell and ALL OF THE CANDY ASS LIBERALS have their way they would sell us out to the UN in a heartbeat! Only problem is the citizenry is armed!
Do not be so naive as to think that this is actually some kind of "anti-terrorism" measure or that democrats like obama are in favor of your 2nd amendment rights. These crazy liberals think us gun-toting bubbas are terrorists.
We should NEVER concede ANY of our gun rights, EVER to ANY country or world body.
Just think for a minute - What would this world be like if there were no America?

I am also 100% in agreement with frostman. This fight, and I truly believe it is coming; is not about our freedom - IT IS ABOUT OUR LIBERTY! The sooner we can elect a CONSERVATIVE government the better we will be.

[weasel]

Yes this is about politics. Patty, Maria and barack were VOTED IN.  Why is anyone upset or surprised at their stand on these issues? Instead of voting on party lines, maybe voters should look at  Patty's, Maria', and barry's stand on things that are important to us.. i'd rather be broke, unemployed and hungry than to have my rights chipped away.  As far as the NRA is concerned, check out the post by Bigshooter from july 14  "NRA delivers remarks at UN concerning proposed Arms Trade
Treaty."  i think treaties must be ratified by 2/3 of Senate or House.  Massive noncompliance...Sorry about the rant..

[Special T]

In my county ther is a local offical that is a Democrat but conservative... I would say in the Scoop Jackson mindset.. He would have run as a republican but there is no a republican could get enough votes in the Valley... Republicans either need to take a few steps down the slippery slope to get elected, or really get thier cat together and really sell the people on why our state needs them... I think republicans rely too much no being RIGHT on the issues and don't take the time to educate people on why they are right... The republicans job is a harder never ending job. 

[BobW]

That's  how it was explained to me about the purpose for the whole thing.  As far as Slade Gorton, may want to read a little about the Bolt decision. Slade was AG, he could have settled with the tribes for a fraction of what they got. My family knew the attorney that represented the tribes. He was from Chehalis. He was shocked how things went. Poor guy just about got ridden out of town on a rail. I don't concider Gorton to be a friend of Washington sportsman.

[BobW]

Frostman

I want you to know my dad in a WWII vet, and a disabled koran war vet, a life long hunter and fisherman, and a liberal. I really resent comments like "CANDY ASSED LIBERALS" he saved 14 GIs throwing a granade out of a foxhole, it took his left hand. I would like to say all he got was a silver star but hay this was the 50's.
Point is all liberals are not anti gun or anti hunting.

[TheHunt]

I had ot post this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo&feature=player_embedded

[SemperFidelis97]

Bob was your dad a liberatarian, or a liberal?  Some dont realize there is a big difference there, and if he was pro gun, pro hunting than he would hardly fit in the pro gay marraige, pro abortion, pro gun control, pro animal rights, anti military liberal agenda of today.  The use of the word liberal to define the so called progressive, neo-socialist is a much newer term than liberatarian which many think are the same the true liberatarian have much more in common with the right rather than the left.

[grundy53]

Bob was your dad a liberatarian, or a liberal?  Some dont realize there is a big difference there, and if he was pro gun, pro hunting than he would hardly fit in the pro gay marraige, pro abortion, pro gun control, pro animal rights, anti military liberal agenda of today.  The use of the word liberal to define the so called progressive, neo-socialist is a much newer term than liberatarian which many think are the same the true liberatarian have much more in common with the right rather than the left.

Or even a Democrat. Back then Democrats were not liberals. Atleast not like we know them today. The progressive movement infiltrated the Democratic party and made it what it is today. So it wasn't bad to be a democrat back in the day.

[BobW]

He has voted a straight party ticket all his life. At 57 I have been a moderet all mine.