Unit 111 - Prouty Loop Wolf Pack Attacks Dogs - 6 miles from Colville

[Alchase]

With the speedy confirmation of the Smackout Pack I was optimistic that the WDFW was possibly learning to take the public seriously and work with them to confirm these packs ......

Speedy confirmation? They had pictures of them from September 2010. They acknowledged they existed in July 2011.
 
Not very speedy, lol

[CedarPants]

I was merely referring to the time that transpired between the pup being collared and the pack being confirmed.  Hopefully the public can pressure more action like this

[Houndhunter]

i hope i never get put in that situation. you ought to see if you can get ahold of the guy who lost 2 great pyrennes (may be spelled wrong but theses are huge dogs) in twisp right out side his house to wolves. i heard he also didnt report the incident , but im sure they wdfw found out. sure is strange we dont hear this type of stuff on the news, but i see coons, bobcats, and yotes all the time on the news for attacking pets

[bearhunter99]

I don't know how many cameras, but I do hope they get some photos. Unless they get photos, I think they will try to brush it off as nothing.

The Region 1 manager was trying to say it might have been coyotes and he wanted to know why I copied the message to so many people before the WDFW had a chance to check it out.

Should've just agreed with him and said my mistake, sorry for wasting your time since you are the expert they couldn't have been wolves.....................then shot the "big yotes"

[jackmaster]

so you can whack a human when your in fear for your life but you cant whack a wolf when it endangers yourself or your family, well if i get put in that situation i will be protecting me my family or anyone else that needs it, they all look like coyotes to me and i am stickn to it... mr. coyote

[mulehunter]

I would need to check, but I don't think you can shoot a wolf in Washington unless it is self defense.

what they told me.

Mulehunter

[DoubleJ]

Think the WDFW would get mad if they came to work one Monday and found 5 wolf pelts and an SD card with video of them attacking livestock or dogs on their front stoop?

[sebek556]

Think the WDFW would get mad if they came to work one Monday and found 5 wolf pelts and an SD card with video of them attacking livestock or dogs on their front stoop?

if they found out who if came from you would probably be tarred feather and drug through the streets by your sack then thrown in jail for life

[bearpaw]

Last winter another resident who lives in the northern end of Unit 111 at Leadpoint had three german shepherds which all disappeared after she heard wolves howling near her home. She advertised for her dogs as being lost on the local radio for a couple weeks in case they turned up somewhere, but they were never foundf, they just disappeared after she heard the wolves howling near her home.

Every week there are dogs missing on the local radio from rural homes in Stevens County, but nobody is connecting the dots on what may be happening.

[seth30]

I know yotes will lure a dog over a hill or into another ambush scenario, will wolves do that as well, or do they just attack and then pull the dogs out somewhere to consume?

[high country]

seth, wolves as well as coyotes, are adaptive.everything that has been studied of the wolves has been done in a very wild area or park, where human interaction is at a minimum. the current crop of predatory wolves introduced have to learn to get by on less abundant food sources and that means they need to head to th nearest light and there will be food there. this is a non issue in yellowstone where they have full time hazers to keep camps free of invasive predators. alaska has large herds of animals and the wolves can follow them with reasonable success. here in the areas affected we have much smaller herds, a large herd of elk may go 50 animals around me. compare that to the smaller herd sizes in alaksa and we are missing a comma or two.
 
the simple answer is that there is no answer as to what wolves will do. they have a strong predatory instinct, and I feel they do not like to be around people, but given that we have dropped them into areas with low numbers of food for them, people will be the food source, be it their childern, pets or selves.
 
it is noble that eco groups want to save the future of an animal that once roamed free here, but the landscape, climate, dispersment of humans increase of pets has taken the once home range of the wolves. to try to reintroduce them without ALL the original aspects of their successful existance is asking for trouble.
 
there is a good reason our forefathers killed them off.

[seth30]

Makes sense that they would adapt to the urban, or semi urban enviroment they are now in.  I sure hope that if we continue to read or hear about wolf attacks its the dogs( not that I like reading about it)  and not the children in those same communties that are under siege, from a new apex predator in town.    I hope they make a change soon so men can defend there property legally. 

[Exploding Rock Chuck]

Seth30, 
Read the link I have provided. It is written by Val Geist. This guy knows what he is talking about, and explains wolf behavior very clearly. Enjoy, it is a good read.

http://rliv.com/wolf/GeistStagesOfDepridation.pdf

[seth30]

very good reading!

[KillBilly]

seth, wolves as well as coyotes, are adaptive.everything that has been studied of the wolves has been done in a very wild area or park, where human interaction is at a minimum. the current crop of predatory wolves introduced have to learn to get by on less abundant food sources and that means they need to head to th nearest light and there will be food there. this is a non issue in yellowstone where they have full time hazers to keep camps free of invasive predators. alaska has large herds of animals and the wolves can follow them with reasonable success. here in the areas affected we have much smaller herds, a large herd of elk may go 50 animals around me. compare that to the smaller herd sizes in alaksa and we are missing a comma or two.
 
the simple answer is that there is no answer as to what wolves will do. they have a strong predatory instinct, and I feel they do not like to be around people, but given that we have dropped them into areas with low numbers of food for them, people will be the food source, be it their childern, pets or selves.
 
it is noble that eco groups want to save the future of an animal that once roamed free here, but the landscape, climate, dispersment of humans increase of pets has taken the once home range of the wolves. to try to reintroduce them without ALL the original aspects of their successful existance is asking for trouble.
 
there is a good reason our forefathers killed them off.

Why do you use words like drop them in areas or re-introduce? It is only rumor that wolves have been transplanted in Washington. We may have Wolves that have migrated from other states but we have no dropped or re-introduced any wolves in this state