Need Some Advice on the Packing List- Trial Run Next Weekend

[Sliverslinger]

Ok guys here's the deal. This year I'm doing something I've always wanted to do- my hunting partner and I are backpacking in for elk about 6-8 miles with a 2,400 foot elevation gain total (gain 1,000 then lose 700 type of terrain so returning to the truck is out until we go home) to where we are camping which will be roughly around 6,200 feet. Going to leave on Tuesday night after work and return home Sunday the 18th so 5 days out there. Don't expect to run into many people if any. Next weekend we are doing a mini trial run of Friday through Sunday to scout around and hopefully shoot a bear while we are at it. My partner was up there on his horse week before last- a little snow left on the south facing slope, but on the north facing slope in the canyon near where camp will be there was still 3-8 feet of snow depending on the drift. In September I expect most of it will be gone. However, as we all know, the weather can change very fast up high. We are camping about 100 feet from a high mountain lake which I've been told has trout in it. Mornings will consist of climbing a steep rock ridge prior to daylight which affords a magnificent view of a massive valley/ drainage with numerous openings and meadows which can be seen from above. Hopefully seeing or hearing some elk down below and formulating a plan of attack. Then we put leather on the ground. If we get something a buddy will be bringing 1-2 horses to help pack it out. Anyway, I'm putting together a packing list for the trial run with the same stuff we will be taking for the elk hunt (except for the specific stuff like calls, scents, etc...). We've both saved up and sprung for light weight backpacking gear such as the stove, sleeping bags and pads, packs, etc... Below is the packing list thus far. Some stuff I think will be unnecessary and I'm sure I'm missing some stuff as well. I'd really appreciate your thoughts on both, especially from those who have done it before. We've done numerous elk camps together but it's always been from a base camp we drive to. So what on this list do we not really need at all, and what am I forgetting that will be a necessity? I appreciate it fellas!

Daypack and Person

License
Map
Compass
Aerial Photo
TP
Pocket Sharpener
Headlamp
Spare Flashlight
Extra batteries
Fire Starter - Vaseline soaked cotton balls
Flint & Striker
Spare lighter
Pink Ribbon
75' 550 cord
Whistle
Camelback
Water bottle with filter
Water filter and tubing
Small first aid kit
Face paint
Calls
Wind Chalk
Elk Scent
Carmex
Copenhagen
Garbage bags x2
Spare Socks
5 tree stand steps
Bug Spray
Thermacell & Cartridges
Walkie Talkies
GPS
Small Machete/ Bone saw
Knife
Bow
Arrows w/ Broadheads
Binos
Rangefinder
Release
Scent Killer Spray
Duct tape wrapped around lighter
Foot Powder


Pack

Pocket Rocket Stove
Fuel Canisters
Pot/Cup set
Utensils
Salt & Pepper Packets
2.5 gallon collapsible water container
Cliff Bars
Instant Oatmeal
Mt. House Meals
Coffee packs
Multivitamins
Gatorade Powder
Jerky & Snacks
1 liter canteen
Sleeping bag
Sleeping mat
Bivy Cover
10x10 light weight tarp
Extra 550 cord
SOG Seal Pup Knife
Soap
Scent Killer Deodorant
Baby Wipes
Toothbrush/ Toothpaste
1 liter canteen
Game Bags
1 gallon Ziplock bags
Small collapsible fishing pole
hooks, bobber, flies,
Extra TP
Extra Release
Small Allen Wrench set for bow repairs


Clothing

Poncho
Hat
Gloves
UA Heat Gear Top
UA Cold Gear Top
UA Cold Gear Bottom
UA Vest
Pants x2
Shirts x2
Underwear x5
Rain Gear
Socks x8-10
Boots

We are absolutely stoked for this trip. Been getting into shape all summer and ready to go.

[ICEMAN]

lose the tree steps
antibacterial solution for spraying the meat, take your pick
suture kit, quick clot
washcloth or bandana
benadryl
imodium anti diahareal
aluminum foil for the fish
some lemon herb seasoning
celebratory ounce of crown royal

[time2hunt]

Just curious what is your pack weight right know

[Sliverslinger]

Just curious what is your pack weight right know

That's a very good question. I actually just got my new pack in the mail today. Keep in mind a lot of this stuff is divided between two people. The answer to your question... I don't know yet. I'm going to pack it tomorrow night with everything except the food which I haven't bought yet.

[ICEMAN]

Anyone have any alergic reactions to bees or anything?  Epipen?

[Sliverslinger]

lose the tree steps
antibacterial solution for spraying the meat, take your pick
suture kit, quick clot
washcloth or bandana
benadryl
imodium anti diahareal
aluminum foil for the fish
some lemon herb seasoning
celebratory ounce of crown royal

I appreciate the input greatly. The tree steps were definitely something that I thought would be the first to go. They are on the list because of how many times I've walked past a tree and thought "If I could only get to that branch I'd have a killer view overwatching this trail." In reality, I'd probably never do it even if I could. Excellent idea on the immodium. Never thought of that but it could definitely be handy.
I did forget to mention the aluminum flask we'll each be taking with Crown. Thanks!

[Sliverslinger]

I've added Immodium Anti Diarhea, A bandana, Ibuprofin, , a flask of Crown, and Benadryl to the list. Removed the tree steps.

[jechicdr]

Looks similar to my list.  You have a lot of "water" containers.  I carry 2 camelbacks up with me and ferry my water to camp (don't like to camp real close to water due to mosquitoes)  Usually keep a full camelback at camp and the one that's partially empty I carry with me on my morning hunt to drink and fill it along the way using my water filter.  I usually hunt on my own and may take 2 trips to get my stuff to camp.  First trip includes hunt and camp necessities, half the food and half my changes of clothes.  Second trip includes the shower, rest of clothes and rest of food.  You'll notice about 2 weeks worth of food.  Mountain house makes a granola, blueberry and milk breakfast that is a great change of pace in the mornings when you don't want to heat up the water.  A little heavier than oatmeal packets, but also more fulfilling.

Backpack x 2

Batteries (AA, AAA, Lithium)
Cell Phone
Extra phone battery
Solar batter (from Edmund Scientific for charging cell phone)
Sleeping bag
Sleeping pad
Pillow
Tent
Water filter
Camel back x 2
Fire starters (lighters/magnesium-flint/wax matches)
Saw
Shower
Towel
Toilet paper
Plastic Shovel
Wipes
Wash cloth
Toothbrush
Deodorant
Foot powder
Soap
Prilosec
Loratadine
First Aid Kit w/ space blanket
Allen wrenches
Garbage bags x 4-in case of hot weather, can put quarters in garbage bags and put in cold creek or alpine lake to keep cool

Jetboil (and utensils)
Fuel
Nature Seasonings-for occasional grouse
Food
   Granola x 14
   Pepperoni sticks
   Dried fruit
   Meals x 14
   Snickers

License and tags
Rangefinder
Binoculars
Binocular case (has some extra pockets for holding little extras)
Wind detector-Firefly I think it is called.
Headlamp x 2 (cheap one for camp, and for tracking game Cabelas Alaskan Guide (on sale now) The XG Green Model is outfitted with a white Maxbrite LED with 70 lumens of output and 90 hours of run time. It also has three 5mm green LEDs that put out 15 lumens for up to 200 hours. Operates on three AA batteries (included). Weight: 8 oz)
Knife
Sharpener
Pruning shears-cutting shooting paths.
Nylon cord
Montana decoy
Calls
Spot Messenger-they make one now that connects to cell phone and you can send texts via satellites.
GPS
Compass
Maps
Game Bags
Camera
Thermacell-Would not bring bug spray

Bow-with 7 arrows in quiver...hope I don't go through all 7.
Release
Sleeve (holds loose clothing out of way on bow arm)
Bow Sling

Boot dryer-scent lok (on sale for 9.88 at Cabelas)
Boots x 2
Shoes for around camp
Socks
Gaitors
Underarmor boxer briefs-great for reducing chaffing with extended walking
Camo layers
Coat
T-shirt for walking up the mountain
Shorts for walking up the mountain
Belt
Rain gear
Warm fur hat
Gloves
Hat with face cover
Wide brimmed hat
Camo paint

[mtncook]

I noticed several water storege contianers, you could leave some.  You are going to have a load for 5 days. I'd also cut the clothes back. You can wear the same outer clothes as long as they are dry.  Your trial run will tell you what to leave home.

mtncook

[3nails]

Don't over think this or over pack for this. You can get by with a lot less than you think. Good idea on a trial run and seriously consider stashing some supplies on that run. You aren't going in that far. My day hunts usually consist of 4-10 miles in, 3,000'+ elev. gain, hunt all day, go home, come back in the morning and do it again.

[kalamasasquatch]

my OPINION......lose the fishing gear, the day pack, some of the cloths, the xtra water containers. add water purification tablets in case your filter fails. pills are a fail safe back up. use your main pack or frame with a fanny pack for your day trips out hunting. youll want the pack frame with you when you do make a kill. why waste a trip fetching the pack frame?

[colockumelk]

I would lose the:

Daypack
Elk Scent: Your spot and stalk/calling elk.  You're gonna be playing the wind anyways.  So this item IMHO is useless
Scent Killer:  Again you'll be playing the wind.  THis is useless weight.  Especially since after 3 days on the mountain there isn't a scent killer product on the market that will mask that scent.  Play the wind.
Extra Water containers:  As said before just use a big camel back and maybe that water bottle with the filter you mentioned.  I get water every day.
Small Machete:  You don't need a saw to debone your elk.  A knife is all you need.  If you must have a bone saw make sure its a small one.  But I only bring a knife.
Extra Clothes:  Dont bring extra pants or extra shirt.  You wont need them.  Also I would cut down on the amount of socks and underwear.

Here's a tip as well.  Make sure that when it comes to underwear and socks you avoid cotton like the plague.  Especially in the underwear department.  Cotton will only absorbe your sweat and will stay wet and by the end of the first day you'll have chaffing so bad you wont want to continue on.  I recommend that you wear some type of compression shorts.  Wal-Mart has them for like $10.  I have 3 pair.  They are Nylon I think and since I started wearing them I havn't had any chaffing.  Socks I would get some good high quality wool or polyester hiking socks.  Same thing as the cotton panties.  They'll absorbe sweat and stay wet, you'll get blisters and your feet will smell horrible.  In the military they taught us to change our socks regularly because of this.  Of course this is because we didn't wear synthetic socks.  Would have solved that problem right away.

[high country]

your pack is WAY too full if you plan on moving country and killing elk. lose every single redundancy.....water filter on top of water filter, etc. you can back up with aqua mira if you are that freaked out. you need; food, water shelter and heat to cook on. a spare pair of socks and undies......you will want to burn the rest after hauling it around.
 
and to think you will be alone is awesome, but can be depressing. I would expect to see a few folks, after all there is a lake.
 
here is everything I took a few years ago. I have whittled a couple pounds out of that.

[high country]

I have tried syn undies.....not for me. I will burn my dirty ones. by thorlo mountaineering or similar socks too

[Sliverslinger]

Thanks for advice guys- keep it coming.My concern with the water is that I am a crazy sweater, no matter what the temp and on many hunts I go through over a gallon of water a day easy, not counting what I used to drink back at camp. Sometimes I'll drink two gallons and still be pissing bright yellow.

In regards to the underwear and socks, I to learned in the military to change socks often. Granted they weren't the best socks, but even now with some of the great expensive backpacking socks, as soon as my feet get sweaty I like to change em out. I try to take care of my feet constantly because I become a sissy when I get a blister or hot spot and I hate being absolutely miserable while hunting.

I'll definitely be adjusting the list in regards to clothes based on the general weather forecast.

Thanks again guys, anything else?

[high country]

You need to figure out how far your water stops are and have enough reserve to make them, any more is a waste. Once you finish your second mtn house, the used containers make perfect water bladders for camp. Thorlo socks will treat your feet very well, worth the $20

[halflife65]

Noticed you had two water filters - get rid of one.

If you are camping next to a lake you probably have too many water containers.  Take a 100oz water bladder and carry and empty water bottle up with you - like a large (one of the big ones) water you can buy at a convenience market.  (Or just take the collapsible 2.5 gallon thing.  I like the water bottle though because my bladder popped on day 1 of an 8 day trip last year so I used the water bottle for everything.)  Since you're going to camp next to water you don't need to carry it up full.  Fill it up each night after you eat and then just leave it in camp if you're going on day hunts from there.  Take one filter and aquamira or iodine tablets as backup.

Unless you plan on cutting off the skull plate after you cape an elk, leave the machete/saw (if you do plan on cutting it off then it's a good reason to bring).  Just bone out the elk and don't carry ANY extra weight.

8 - 10 pairs of socks is a lot.  I would take 3 - and be wearing one of them.  That way you have the pair on your feet, the pair that you just took off and are airing out and the pair that's been aired out.  Wear high quality pants that dry quickly and don't bring any extra.  If you get real wet just put your raingear on over your UA and let your pants dry out. Bring one extra UA shirt if you'd like.

I'd add a stocking hat.  6200' is high and you'll freeze your butt off in the morning if you're sitting around glassing before you start moving around.  A warm noggin' is the easiest way to keep the rest of you warm.

I don't figure I'm going to be stitching anything up but I did start to carry some of that blood clot stuff.  Also, make sure that you have a mirror on your compass you can use to get the fir needle out of your eye when it decides to jump in there.

I use Patagonia boxers and don't worry about any extra.  Sure, it's gross but think of it as extra incentive for your lonely hunting partner to stay away from you.  They dry super fast, you could always give them a dip in the lake and go commando for awhile. 

I see you have foot powder.  Replace it with Goldbond so you can use it on your undercarriage, too.  Chafing sucks.

Put your oatmeal in heavy duty freezer ziplocks and just dump the water in there.  That way you aren't dirtying a dish.

I wouldn't worry about fishing.  You have more important stuff to do.  Like kill an elk.

I'd consider not painting my face because it'll be awhile before you can adequetely get it off if you paint up on day one.

[high country]

I can't believe I missed the stocking cap. Wear it while you sleep. I am a big fan of gatorade bottles as they are easy to fill cheap to buy and I can burn it before I leave.

[halflife65]

I didn't mention some of the stuff other people already had:
Don't need the scent killer or cow estrus.  You're going to stink after the walk in - just play the wind.
Take 1 pack.  Hopefully you can collapse it enough to use as a day pack.  Plus you can get your first load of meat to camp (or to where a horse can access.)
Tree steps (?)
Just remember, every ounce counts. 

If you get blisters or hot spots, consider wearing a lightweight silk-type sock under your heavier socks.  That helps a bunch.  And they dry fast so if you have to bring any extra it's just one pair so you can swap back and forth each day.

You might consider trekking poles for the walk in or out or when your are packing meat.  That's kind of optional but I got a pair and they're nice.  You can use to assist in your tarp setup, too, although that's certainly not absolutely necessary.

[Karl Blanchard]

a few things I have learned is plan your meals.  in a gallon ziplock place everything you are going to eat in a day. keeps things organized and ensures you are getting the proper calories.  My food averages 1 1/2 pounds a day.  another little trick is take all your mountain house out of their bags and put them in a ziplock and tape them tight.  This will compress their size to about half.  Keep one in a bag and just re-use that one bag all week. Lasagna mountain house cheese globs to a fork like concrete,  it is good but best left at home.  throw in some top a ramen for lunch, it is light and 2 cups of water in a mountain house bag for ten minutes and you have hot soup instead of a protein bar and fruit leather for lunch .  last but not least............TYLENOL P.M.!!!!!!!!!  single handedly the most important thing in your pack.  Also I second leaving the saw at home just debone, ditch all the clothes and as far as the knife goes I prefer a solid fixed blade knife, takes up a little more room but you can do anything with a fixed blade knife even chop down a tree (a small one).  Good luck and have fun!

[jechicdr]

Dr. Scholls makes some socks-blister gaurd crew socks (available at Fred Meyer and Kohl's) that work really well.  Have some sort of anti friction material.  I used them last year and liked them much better than the expensive "hiking" socks I bought at Cabelas.

[fair-chase]

If you get blisters or hot spots, consider wearing a lightweight silk-type sock under your heavier socks.  That helps a bunch.  And they dry fast so if you have to bring any extra it's just one pair so you can swap back and forth each day.

  Another alternative is pantyhose. Cheap, lightweight, silk, and disposable. Don't ask me how I know and whatever you do do not get the full length ones. You may be searching for another hunting partner if you go that route. 

[akirkland]

I think you have too much stuff. Pull 5 things off your list that are not must haves. After that pull 5 more things you can live without. We tend to pack everything we have plus the kitchen sink. Its not all needed. ICEMAN had a few thing to consider. A friend of mine hunts the backwoods. He is in pretty good shape and his pack is about 30 pounds. I think your will be quite a bit more. You want to be comfortable. Plus, you need to practice shooting with your pack on. Shoot from all different angles and positions. Good luck!

[CAMPMEAT]

MOLESKIN.......................a must for blisters.

[unluckyjohn]

Take 4 sheets of black and white newspaper and find the room for house slipper type of shoe. the key is as soon as you get into camp each day/ night get out of your boots, put two sheets in each one. will make a difference.
  I liked having a real compass when I did the back country hunt to twin sisters last year. don't forget a small digital camera, well worth the weight.  I would stick with the mountain house meals for two (one person needs a 2 person serving after a hard day)
If I was going to do it again I would also add a emergency blanket to my day pack. (no weight/size)
the mistake I made last year was the weight. I felt great at home, after mile whatever I started thinking twice about what was in my pack.
     

[high country]

John, I use warm rocks instead of paper.

I would go on your trial run with next to nothing. Food fire water....and a list of stuff you miss. I keep a list of everything I do not use. If anything goes 2 trips without getting used it stays home....excluding emergency bag and meds.

[CAMPMEAT]

I've been up in the Pasayten, Goat Rocks, Mt. Rainier and the ocean backpacking. I never, ever took that much stuff with me. I took the basics, food, canteen of water (then fill at camp from creek), sleeping bag/tent, TP, extra (light) clothes, sleeping pad, small pillow, small flashlight, water purifier, candy to suck on for keeping my mouth wet, boots to wear hiking in, tennis shoes for wondering around, beef jerky, something to sit on. I could keep my pack at 60ish pounds. So if you wiegh 200#s + 60#s + 10#s ( gun )  you're at 270#s lugging all the crap 5-8 miles up hill, down hill. If you are excellent shape, then it will still be a pain in the butt. Think of it that way. Oh, we'd have 1 meal a day, dinner and that was it. The rest of the time we snacked just enough to keep us happy.

[high country]

I am 42# with water, food and ammo.

[halflife65]

If you want camp shoes, try Crocs.  They're really light and you can strap them to your feet to cross creeks, etc. if you need to.  They are rubber type material so you can hang them from the outside of your pack and they'll dry before you want to wear them around camp.

Making the list and knocking stuff off of it that doesn't get used is a really good idea.  I like the warm rock idea, high country.  Good thinking.

[colockumelk]

I second the special underwear.  I went and bought some boxer brief style underwear that is made of synthetic material.  THey are like $10-$15 a pair. Bought them at sportsmens or I'm sure Big 5 has them as well.  Worth the money.  I bring 2 pair.  THey weight next to nothing and since wearing them I have not had any chaffing at all.  Pre-Synthetic undies I wore cotton and chaffed every time I went out.  Last summer in the sweltering jungles of SE Alabama during SERE school I wore the same pair for a week and didnt' have any chaffing.  If I'd worn cotton I would have been medically dropped because I KNOW my chaffing would have been unbearable. 

[jechicdr]

As I mentioned, Under armor boxer briefs saved my life.  I got some from REI, and some from Cabelas.  The ones from Cabelas are camo...in case you want to run around in the woods in just your skivvies.

[lewy]

I second the crocs. great for camp and to let your feet air out. Taking care of your feet is super important, figure out what socks work best for you before the hunt. I started using corn starch in my wind checker bottle, it doubles as foot/nut powder when needed to save you a little space

[bullcanyon]

Costco has some champion underwear that are similar to the underarmour.  3 for $11 though.  I tested them out yesterday with a 8+ mile excursion into the backcountry.  They work better than I expected.

[CAMPMEAT]

Tennis shoes are good for hiking around and hunting too around camp.

[Sliverslinger]

OK Guys, thanks for the advice, highly appreciated. I packed, then repacked, then took out some more, then repacked again.

Below is the updated list - I took a lot of the advice you guys had to give.

A couple notes - Keeping the small machete/ saw for deplating horns, chopping limbs to burn, etc...

Thought taking some NO Explode Powder and Whey protein powder would be a really good idea as that always helps before and after my workouts and rides and weighs less than food.

Thanks for the advice on putting MT. House meals in Ziplock bags and just saving one or two of the MT. House bags and reusing it. Will do that today.

I feel I need the day pack -  it is the Cabelas fanny pack style with Shoulder straps- small and light. My main pack is the Cabelas Jim Shockey external frame pack - absolutely love the pack but it's very large and the material is not as quiet as I like for slipping around in the woods. I want to be able to leave my sleeping back, extra food, and other stuff in it at camp for waterproofing and to keep it hidden up in a tree. Many bears where we are going. My daypack clips to it and is very light. 

I got rid of the extra filter- the water bottle with filter will be used to fill everything as it is the faster option (tried it).

All in all, thanks to you guys, thus far I've pulled about 10 lbs worth of stuff. Today I'm going to trim it up even more. Any other thoughts?



Person

License
Knife
Bow
Arrows w/ Broadheads
Binos
Rangefinder
Release
Face paint
Calls
Wind Chalk
Walkie Talkies
FNP-40 in Holster


Daypack

Map
Compass
Aerial Photo
TP
Pocket Sharpener
Headlamp
Spare Flashlight wrapped in pink ribbon
Extra batteries- AA &AAA
Fire Starter - Vaseline Cottonballs
Flint & Striker
Spare lighter wrapped in Duct tape
75' 550 cord
Camelback x1
Waterbottle w/ filter
Carmex
Copenhagen
Garbage bags x2
Spare Socks
Thermacell & Cartridges
Small Machete/ Bone saw
Goldbond
Bandana
Benadryl x5
Ibuprofin x5
Tylenol PM x5
Immodium Anti-Diarhea x5
5 Hour Energy x1
Small First Aid Kit
Quick Clot
Bandana
Fleece Beanie
Water purification tablets
Emergency space blanket

Pack

Pocket Rocket Stove
Fuel Canisters
Pot/Cup/ utensil set
Protein Bars
Instant Oatmeal x6
Mt. House Meals
Multivitamins
NO Explode Powder
Whey Protein Powder
Sleeping bag
Sleeping mat
Bivy Cover
Baby Wipes
Toothbrush/ Toothpaste
Game Bags
1 gallon Ziplock bags
Extra TP
Small Allen Wrench set for bow repairs
5 hour energy x4
Camelback x 1

Clothing in pack

Poncho
Hat
Gloves
UA Heat Gear Top
UA Cold Gear Top
UA Cold Gear Bottom
UA Vest
Pants x1
Shirts x1
UA Underwear x1 (extra)
Socks x4 (extra)
Sandals

[high country]

looking better. I would have some aqua mira drops, needle and thread with a button, serving or dental floss, camera, pencil and paper. I take notes. I think the airel photo will screw you up as the view is flat and looks nothing like your perspective. I wrap my pencil with electrical tape and gorilla tape too.
 
I have used this knife on 3 bears, 5 deer and 7 elk. I used to carry big $$$ knives, but this thing does it all. the saw has a blade like your leatherman but longer so it is easy to get through a skull cap, the main blade locks and is typical swiss sharp, there is a gut blade that actually works very well and does not shave the crap out of the hair. I expected to try it and throw it away. I bought them for my friends I was so impressed. I save a ton of weight and lose nothing.
 
http://www.swissknifeshop.com/shop/swiss-army/sports-outdoors-swiss-army-knives/swiss-army-hunter
 
I use this sharpener. it is a simple piece of carbide on a stick. you must be mindful when using it, but it is a one pass and done sharpener. light, fast and cheap.
 
http://www.speedysharp.net/
 
 

[Karl Blanchard]

Didn't notice it before but whatever you do don't skimp on the Copenhagen.  When you think you packed enough throw in one more can!   List is lookin pretty good!  It used to always amaze me how much weight you can shave when you really start critiquing everything.  Forgot about the pencil and paper that was a good catch high country.  Little side note, I don't know if you are married with kids or not but I keep a few pics on my digital camera of the family for when I get missing em (mostly the kiddo )  it helps.

[ICEMAN]

I checked my gear first if it could handle the lithium AA batteries, then filled all my gear with them. They last way longer and are way lighter...
 
Electrolyte powder (gatorade or powerade) for mixing in your drink bottle occasionally. (Avoids leg cramps from over exertion and dehydration.)

Why the 5 hour energy (duh).... is this really needed?

[Clownbuster]

License
Map
Compass
Garmin Rhino 530hcx GPS + 2-way radio
Rangefinder (maybe)
Sunscreen and lip balm
Biodegradable buttwipe (RV store)
3) Mouth plate calls
1) Lightweight Sitka Core layer
1) Lightweight Sitka Ascent layer
1) Medium Sitka 90% Layer
1) Sitka Downpour Jacket/Pants Waterproof layer
Gloves, ballcap, lightweight beanie/Poly heavy beanie
xtra pair of sox and drawers
Lightweight, waterproof well-worn-in backpacking boots, NOT HUNTING BOOTS
Headlamp, xtra flashlight, xtra batteries
1-4 person First-aid + Survival kit w/Quikclot, suture/syringe/IV kit, Sam Splint, Morphine, Valium, Naproxen & Penicilin
Windproof Lighter
Waterproof container
Fire starter, (usually slobbered-up cotton balls)
Multitool
Knife + sharpener
Wyoming Saw
SMALL roll of Duct tape
JetBoil, 1) 100gm can of Jetboil fuel
1) days ration of MH freeze-dried food per day + one xtra meal (Dont eat much when I hunt, squirrels taste good if starving)
Spoon
1) Clif bar per day
3L Hydration bladder full of H2O & Cytomax
3 packets Cytomax recovery powder (Old muscles starting to get sore)
Water filter + tablets
1 gal colapsible water storage or xtra 3L Hydration bladder
SOL Thermal Bivy (Emergency)
Osprey Aether 85 Backpack (Ive trimmed xtra straps, clips, & misc off for weight savings)
1-person MSR Carbon Reflex 1 tent + maybe the footprint (Depending on where I'm hunting)
Marmot Plasma Sleeping bag
NeoAir Sleeping pad
LOUD Whistle
Measuring cup/Mug
3) 1 gal ZipLock bags
Parachute cord
Tiny Toothbrush
Custom-made meatsacks my wife made me out of Gore-Tex PacLite Material (cuz no one makes 'em...YET!)
Binos
Glock G29 10mm subcompact w/15round fullsize mag on a thigh rig + one xtra mag
Bow
1 'victory' Cuban Cigar
1 Small bag of hard candy (Jolly Rancher, etc...keeps mouth wet while hiking)

Thats my typical list of everything thats in my pack AND on by body at time of trailhead. Most all my gear is ultralight (pack, tent, sleeping bag/pad etc...) Weight of my pack starts in at about 35 lbs for 5 days and gets heavier from there with food, but I dont take but what I feel is the essentials. Hope my list can help but I'm sure its pretty basic compared to what most people take.

[unluckyjohn]

I skip the tp and go 100% unscented baby wipes. also if you don't already have a good pack saw, I use the Gerber pack saw, it has both wood and bone saw blades. A small handful of zip tyes is also nice to have. you just never know. I did strap a small folding chair to my pack for camp. unnecessary weight but I found it to be a great luxury while partners sat on rocks and stumps, my 44 year old ass needed it.
  We got really lucky and a couple that was packed in by horse brought by some beer, whiskey and olive oil to fry up some of the back strap from my buddies spike.

[adamR]

clownbuster, was the morphine, valium, and penicillin thing a joke?  or are you a doctor? if not where the hell can I get morphine and valium? and if you are taking those things, where is your narcan and phenegren

[sticky]

,Maybe two other things to consider. If you actually use the pink ribbon, bring along another color.  This will allow you to differentiate between where you last saw the bear you shot and the trail home.  The other is a good source of potassium to keep you from cramping up after you sweat a bunch of fluids out. Bananas, potato chips, ketchup, all can stop a bad, painful hamstring Charlie horse sometimes within a minute.  It isn't just about salt. Good luck.

[hike2hunt]

List looks great, you can buy a cheap scale at Stapes/Office depot, and invidually weigh your gear to help elimintate. I have different lists for different trips.

My number one item is a good sleeping mat.

[hike2hunt]

Where are you carrying your whistle?

[True Sportsman]

Thats a hell of a packing list. Looks like you got all your bases covered. When I first started packing in deep, I packed everything I could think of. I had too much crap. Now, when I go, I pack very light and only bring the bare minimum.

If it were me, I would leave the following items:

Pistol
Walkie talkies
Water bottle and filter (you have the camel back already, i'd use water purification tabs, small and light)
space blanket
Flint striker

I would add a GPS. I just bought a Garmin Map 60 CSX, its small light and works great. It is cheap insurance.

As stated already, a good sleeping pad is a high priority, and a good sleeping bag...

You'll find out really quick what you need and what you don't need. Good luck.

[Elkrunner]

So what was the final list and how did it turn out?  I am starting to plan my trip for next year.  I am finally going to pack in and go for it.  Sooo, my question is.  Does anyone have a list of there stuff in a spreadsheet that might be able to share with me?  I need a starting off point.

At this point, I have most items.  I do know that I want a new pack and have not decided on my form of shelter or stove yet. 

[SniperDanWA]

Bump

[JackOfAllTrades]

I wanna know how much both packs weigh.

-Steve