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I have been out twice and as usual have not seen a bear.  I know I am in good bear country but cannot seem to find them.  Something that has been really weird is there are no berries.  The huckle berries are about the size of a BB and are still green.  It appears they may never ripen.  The salmon berries may ripen by early September....but that is really late.  I am finding bear scat, but cannot identify what they are eating. 

Without berries, where would you look and what do they normally eat?  I am hunting north east of Stevens past.  Chiwawa river and white river.  Really weird year. 

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 10:19:22 PM »
Its just that kind of year with the huckleberries.  The snow stuck around longer than usually and its put the berries back a few more weeks.  Usually end of august is when they ripen out but now early to mid september.  Good luck!
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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 10:35:26 PM »
Strange, I was under the impression that bears would consume berries wether they were ripened or not. We (humans) wait for berries to ripen because that is when they are at their peak of both nutrition and flavor. An unripened fruit may not be as palatable to us but does still offer some nutritional value (albeit less) to bears. I suppose it would just depend on wether or not their was another available food source that offered the same or more nutrition with less effort exerted to obtain.

I'm in no way an expert on the forage habits of bears. More or less just rambling to mark this page.  :chuckle:  Like you I would like to hear more on this subject. If I'm way off base on the berries I would gladly accept correction on this matter. Hopefully some of our resident bear experts can enlighten us on this subject.

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 10:51:48 PM »
i spent the last 2 days over around easton and found alot of blue berries today and alot of strawberries.


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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2011, 01:07:37 AM »
What about wild strawberrys do they like wild strawberrys

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 02:02:02 AM »
What about wild strawberrys do they like wild strawberrys

im curious about that too. becuase i would find blue berry bushes that were stripped clean and at the base of them would be wild strawberries everywhere completely untouched.  :dunno:


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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 04:19:01 AM »
I'm no botanist, though I play one on t.v.

I believe blueberries and huckleberries are significantly higher in sugar content than strawberries and I imagine that a bear trying to get fat for winter is focused on mealtime economy.

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 04:29:14 AM »
Strange, I was under the impression that bears would consume berries wether they were ripened or not. We (humans) wait for berries to ripen because that is when they are at their peak of both nutrition and flavor. An unripened fruit may not be as palatable to us but does still offer some nutritional value (albeit less) to bears. I suppose it would just depend on wether or not their was another available food source that offered the same or more nutrition with less effort exerted to obtain.

I'm in no way an expert on the forage habits of bears. More or less just rambling to mark this page.  :chuckle:  Like you I would like to hear more on this subject. If I'm way off base on the berries I would gladly accept correction on this matter. Hopefully some of our resident bear experts can enlighten us on this subject.

Bear will only eat berries that are ripe after they sugar up and are nutritious. The same is true of orchards, they won't touch fruit until it ripens. They eat green grass, roots, some leaves, insects, amphibians, small animals, dead animals, mushrooms, inner bark on trees, and other vegetation until the berries ripen.
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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 06:18:35 AM »
same with deer..they leave apple trees alone till they rippen

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 06:38:38 AM »
The kids and I picked a nice mess of hucks last week about 3000 ft. Seem to have a much better crop than last year, down lower though.

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 06:52:46 AM »
down here in the klickitat the oregon grapes are on full strength...bears like berries so look for whats ripe or ripening and look for stumps that have bees or other bugs...I saw lots of stump damage the last time out

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2011, 08:41:04 AM »
Shed Stud

Were you on the east side?  I don't want to know your exact location, but I have been from 2000 feet to almost 6000 and nothing.  I am looking in places that usually have tones of huckleberries / blueberries this time of year.  Just curious is you were in the Lake Wenatchee area.

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I thought that would be the case.  This makes it really hard to find them becuase the entire east slopes have what you have listed in mass.  They could be anywhere and they are not where they should be.....berry patches. 

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2011, 08:43:52 AM »
we have had good berries for 2 weeks around here

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 08:52:33 AM »
High country...Where is "here".  I don't want directions, just general area of state (west side, east side, north, south etc.)  I have heard that the west side has tons of berries as usual.  That is why it is so wierd for where I hunt not to have berries.

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Re: Unless I am blind...There are absolutely no berries on the east side.
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 09:05:49 AM »
Try looking for the lowest elevation southerly or westerly exposed hucks that you can find. They are starting to ripen at lower elevations. Service berries are another early ripening berry.
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