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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2011, 10:41:28 PM »
I am an avid archer,but I could careless for the last week of archery deer IMHO..I dont like that they have taken days away and for nothing. The week I want back and is a big deal is the late archery whitetail season we lost that was a prime date for us..now we are chasing the tail end of the rut and post rut. The early dates to me are not as critical as the bucks are very hard to hunt in late sept and alot of archers dont chase them by then..most serious archers put in the time that first week.

Then you have good cause to attend the meeting closest to you next week. Take along some friends.
 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/index.html
 
I know a lot of archers (far more serious than some!) who hunted that last week of September and notched their tags then with regularity. Archery hunting is supposed to be hard.

Id be interested on how many of those bucks were 5+? shooting 1-3 yr olds isnt hard then.Ive watched alot of mature whiteys over the last 20 years to know that first few days of Sept are prime for taking a mature buck..everyday after that it gets harder and harder... there a reason October is known as the "lull" bucks (mature) are hard to get if not impossible then.

I am trying to wttend that meeting in Spokane

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2011, 08:15:24 AM »
I am an avid archer,but I could careless for the last week of archery deer IMHO..I dont like that they have taken days away and for nothing. The week I want back and is a big deal is the late archery whitetail season we lost that was a prime date for us..now we are chasing the tail end of the rut and post rut. The early dates to me are not as critical as the bucks are very hard to hunt in late sept and alot of archers dont chase them by then..most serious archers put in the time that first week.

Then you have good cause to attend the meeting closest to you next week. Take along some friends.
 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/seasonsetting/index.html
 
I know a lot of archers (far more serious than some!) who hunted that last week of September and notched their tags then with regularity. Archery hunting is supposed to be hard.

Id be interested on how many of those bucks were 5+? shooting 1-3 yr olds isnt hard then.Ive watched alot of mature whiteys over the last 20 years to know that first few days of Sept are prime for taking a mature buck..everyday after that it gets harder and harder... there a reason October is known as the "lull" bucks (mature) are hard to get if not impossible then.

I am trying to wttend that meeting in Spokane

Thanks for the information i will try to make it as well and pass the word along. Brian

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2011, 02:01:47 PM »
12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.
:yeah: The 'straw that broke the camels back' in the trapping initiative was showing on TV about four days before the election a house kitty in an illegal steel, toothed, leg-hold trap. The anti-hunters won that initiative by less than 5%.

Distasteful videos & photographs are among the anti-hunters' best weapons against those of us who hunt, trap or fish...
« Last Edit: August 16, 2011, 02:11:39 PM by Snapshot »
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2011, 02:17:30 PM »
12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.
:yeah: The 'straw that broke the camels back' in the trapping initiative was showing on TV about four days before the election a house kitty in an illegal steel, toothed, leg-hold trap. The anti-hunters won that initiative by less than 5%.

Distasteful videos & photographs are among the anti-hunters' best weapons against those of us who hunt, trap or fish...
well said , you hit that right on the melon, even as hardcore huntn fool like so many others i dont like to see animals in traps or bad pictures of animals taken because of the way it makes us look. i am sure alot of you remember that bow huntn that happened up north on those elk that they put on the news, especially that one elk that was laying within spitn distance of the road why that guy was putn arrows in the poor thing. that made us all look like real fricken idiots
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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2011, 04:25:40 PM »
12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.
:yeah: The 'straw that broke the camels back' in the trapping initiative was showing on TV about four days before the election a house kitty in an illegal steel, toothed, leg-hold trap. The anti-hunters won that initiative by less than 5%.

Distasteful videos & photographs are among the anti-hunters' best weapons against those of us who hunt, trap or fish...
well said , you hit that right on the melon, even as hardcore huntn fool like so many others i dont like to see animals in traps or bad pictures of animals taken because of the way it makes us look. i am sure alot of you remember that bow huntn that happened up north on those elk that they put on the news, especially that one elk that was laying within spitn distance of the road why that guy was putn arrows in the poor thing. that made us all look like real fricken idiots
That it did; we looked like horses' butts. And it was perfectly legal what the TV cameras captured! But being legal didn't make it look right.
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2011, 08:50:01 PM »
they could find a bad image or event in any of our hunting methods. one bad apple or circumstance can't turn us against our fellow hunters,in there time of need.   We need to show our support even if it isn't our chosen method of hunting. and hope off the fence.

Here is another one that gets me as well. In my opinion the cats or bears kill more of our game now, and will through out our lives, than the wolf will. But the wolf gets far more of our energy now?
I am 100% against them being here, even in small #s our fore fathers worked far to hard to allow them back at all. we will never be able to control them even if they were treated like a coyote. and was shoot on site or kill any way possible, i don't feel we have the rite to undo what they did. I know a little side tracked:-)     
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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2011, 10:49:41 AM »
To change the subject (and further jack the thread), want to do something to protect your privilege to hunt? Do some fact checking about an effort to expand the North Cascades National Park boundaries. And then write an opposition letter to each of your congresswomen to ask them to please not support any congressional action that would change the boundaries. National Parks designation would end hunting on hundreds of thousands of acres that we can currently hunt on. An alternative might be wilderness designation which is at least foot-hunter and horseback-hunter friendly and at the same time offers some protections that "greenies" appreciate, too.

[I did the homework for you.]  Here is a link to the American Alps report that outlines how increasing the size of North Cascades National Park will shrink the national forest where we can currently hunt. Thousands of acres would be lost to hunting! If you can't write a letter, then call your Senators! Murray: (202) 224-2621. Cantwell: (202) 224-3441.

 
http://www.northcascades.org/American%20Alps%20Biodiversity%20Report%20Final%20Draft.pdf
 
[It is a pdf file so you can type the word 'hunting' in the FIND box at the top and then click the "FIND NEXT" arrow over and over to get the specific parts that will raise your blood pressure.]
I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2011, 03:16:01 PM »
definitely give them a call.

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2011, 04:25:55 PM »
12% is anti hunting, whereas a large majority are on the fence as don't hunt, but don't care.  EASILY swayed by bambi pics and the like, a single video of dogs ripping apart a bear cub.    We describe these folks as on the fence.  The ones that are easily convinced one way or the other. 

Take bear baiting for instance.   A very useful tool to sort out sows with cubs or boars etc.   There is nothing easy about carrying on a successful bait.  However, if you have ever come across a bad "bait" in the woods, its an aweful mess.   or if you try to persuade an non hunting populace about wanting to not shoot a sow with cubs, their first thought is to SHUT IT DOWN.
:yeah: The 'straw that broke the camels back' in the trapping initiative was showing on TV about four days before the election a house kitty in an illegal steel, toothed, leg-hold trap. The anti-hunters won that initiative by less than 5%.

Distasteful videos & photographs are among the anti-hunters' best weapons against those of us who hunt, trap or fish...
well said , you hit that right on the melon, even as hardcore huntn fool like so many others i dont like to see animals in traps or bad pictures of animals taken because of the way it makes us look. i am sure alot of you remember that bow huntn that happened up north on those elk that they put on the news, especially that one elk that was laying within spitn distance of the road why that guy was putn arrows in the poor thing. that made us all look like real fricken idiots
That it did; we looked like horses' butts. And it was perfectly legal what the TV cameras captured! But being legal didn't make it look right.
hey let me clue you in on something ... about the hunt up north .... You guys do not have a freaken clue about the issue... want to blame someone blame the dept for making such a poor ass decision by making a season last four freakin months , so the whole world can go out and buy a bow and a tag to go and hunt in a farmers field .... I have hunted this unit for many years and there was never a problem until they made the season so freakin long ,,,,when bow hunting was just the month of october they never had a problem ,,, and I am still pi$$ed the dept.. ruined my huntin area ... first the muzzleloader guys messed it up so they decided to use the bow hunter and now he is the idiot... this still gets me going ...and I am not saying they did right by any means but its not just there fault .....when you gets guys in the field with a bow who think they are bowhunters because they shoot a bow is usually a disaster ....shooting at animals at 70 to 100 yrds is just BS I do not care how good you think you are!!! Period ....  >:(

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2011, 05:37:56 PM »
B45, I know full well what went on along the highway up north, and you outlined it very well for those who didn't know, thank you. If I were the conspiracy-theory-type I'd say the department planned for us to get a black-eye; the same black-eye they saw the muzzleloaders take the year before. But that is just crazy, ain't it?

I'd just like to remind everybody that it's about the hunting, not just the killing. In other words, it's about the total experience, the sport itself and the challenge involved. Bowhunting, done right, is a justifiable and honorable pursuit. Done for the wrong reasons, simply chalking up kills and seeking personal glory, it's taking away rather than giving back to a principled way of life that has to be experienced to be understood. G.StCharles

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2011, 05:41:21 PM »
not really crazy when you look at how they run teh dept...

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Re: We Can't loose the ability to feed our wild life.
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2011, 06:39:05 PM »
believe me I have only knew 2 wardens who I actually liked and they are now retired .....the ones I know now are just trying to be the high and mighty because they are next in line ....we will see after this year what happens because these elk are multiplying like rabbits .... seen 30 head last night with at least 12 to 15 calves in it ....I want to see 10 to 15 permits for this unit and that way everyone has a chance to harvest ...They use the master hunters now but they are still hunting the same places I have for years but I guess since they went threw the dept. BS they know what they are doing  :o :yeah:

 


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