Thanks.  Last season we did not see a single elk in this area.  The other elk camps said the same thing.  We could tell they had been there within a week but once season starts they disappear.  A local told me that the WDFW does a population survey with helicopters right before season starts.  I dont know if I believe that but those elk sure did leave the area.  Hopefully we can find them this year.  I tried real hard not to spook any of them.