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Can't get rifle to group
« on: August 15, 2011, 01:31:17 PM »
I am having a heck of a time getting my Remington 30-06 mountain rifle to group worth a darn. I have tried a few different rounds to no avail. Besides swapping ammo again (I am currently running Remington 165 grain accutips), how should I start narrowing down the issue?

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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 01:39:30 PM »
How tight is the stock to the barrel? Often times free floating the barrel will get rid of inaccuracies. Ever time you fire, the barrel vibrates, and if its rubbing on something, it will stop in a different place each time. If a barrel is free floated, it will be in the same spot every time.

With some ammo, I can only get about 2" groups at 100. With the hand loads we worked up, its now shooting sub MOA groups. Sometimes it just takes finding the round your gun likes.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 01:39:44 PM »
I am having a heck of a time getting my Remington 30-06 mountain rifle to group worth a darn. I have tried a few different rounds to no avail. Besides swapping ammo again (I am currently running Remington 165 grain accutips), how should I start narrowing down the issue?
let someone else shoot it,what kinda groups are you getting?bench rest off hand vise???If I have a problem I let someone else try it to make sure its not me..and go from there...some guns just dont shoot well..

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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 01:47:16 PM »
Check for loose guard screws, bases and rings. Check the crown. Let the barrel cool between shots especially if the shots are stinging upwards. That thin barrel can be accurate but will heat up quickly. You can try removing the pressure point on the forend and you can always put the pressure point back with glass if needed, while you bed the action.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 01:49:46 PM »
What kind of groups are not worth a darn?

Those mountain gun barrels get hot and whippy quick.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 01:50:01 PM »
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Check for loose guard screws, bases and rings.

Everytime I've ever had a problem it was the scope.

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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2011, 02:02:36 PM »
Some good info. Check the rings and bases, that causes a lot of guns to start shooting poor, when they get loose. If it use to shoot the ammo you are shooting well. Now its shooting it poor then its not the ammo and I would start looking at the rings and bases and then the scope itself.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2011, 02:21:38 PM »
see if you can slip a dollar down the barell and forestock after you shoot a couple times your barrel might be pressing and when it gets hot, warm , and hot again it will throw you all over the paper :twocents:
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2011, 02:36:29 PM »
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Check for loose guard screws, bases and rings.

Everytime I've ever had a problem it was the scope.


Exactly, never had a problem other than it always being the scope... Swap out the scope completely and try it and see what you get with it.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2011, 02:45:14 PM »
Should have bought a 7mm.  :chuckle:
Just kidding.

I like the idea of having someone else shoot it too. Then check bases, rings, scope. 9 out of 10 its a scope or ring issue.



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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 02:52:55 PM »
Not that this will help you but since you guys mentioned having someone else shoot your rifle it reminded me that my dad is right eye dominant and i shoot lefty so every rifle we have gets shot/sighted in from both sides. we also use feeler gauges for ring gap and hone the rings with sand paper and use a torque wrench to finish mounting. since we started using this process we haven't had to use a bore sight again.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 02:57:19 PM »
let someone else shoot it just for their grouping. Dont pay attention to where they hit and do not change it based on where they hit. Everyone shots a little different it seems.

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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 03:00:17 PM »
let someone else shoot it just for their grouping. Dont pay attention to where they hit and do not change it based on where they hit. Everyone shots a little different it seems.

It does work! Stickslinger can never hit anything. I don't have any problems hitting the x with his rifles. He blames it on his lazy eye.
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2011, 03:02:12 PM »
I just wonder how bad the group is. A stock mountain rifle I wonder if most of them will even shoot 1.5"-2" consistently. Especially when they get warmed up a little.
How big are the groups?
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Re: Can't get rifle to group
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2011, 03:11:33 PM »
no offence but if you put on a really crappy cheap scope that could also be the problem. 
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