Actually, I'll throw up an actual bit that may help. The cuts I've been learning about (thanks to a few members here) are mostly a few years old. I would normall pass a few of these up but am learning that bears like it a little thicker than I would assume. I was watching a blacktail doe on wednesday night and it was a good experience. I would have guessed that antything moving would be invisible but not so, just enough breaks in the brush that you have some shooting lanes but the critters still feel confortable. So...maybe when you are out and about, give those areas that are grown up a bit a chance. Sit on them for a bit and maybe you'll see something.