Lighted nock article in the spokesman

[jnevs23]

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/aug/21/bowhunter-gets-cool-reception-in-caign-to/

not sure if this has been posted yet

[sebek556]

yes I want lighted nocks, but that article makes it sound like bowhunting is a horrible way for a deer to die.. so on the fence about this one...

[Kain]

I personally dont care if someone wants to use a lighted nock.  I also think a camera mounted to a bow is totally fine.  I think the essence of the no electronic rule is to keep electronics from increasing the effectiveness of a bow.  Cameras and lighted nocks dont do that. 

I hope that article is way off about the number of animals being killed and wounded and not recovered though.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks study on elk wounding lost conducted in the late 1980s. Researchers found that of the bowhunters who hit an elk with an arrow, only about 50 percent were able to recover the animal.

How about mandatory NBEF training for Archers ?
I think it is more a matter of a nut loose on your riser, if you do not know where you hit an animal, and fail to recover.
But that is just me, high visibility nocks, fletching and wraps, shots under 40 yards, year round practice, only release when I am confident in shot/placement.

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

I personally dont care if someone wants to use a lighted nock.  I also think a camera mounted to a bow is totally fine.  I think the essence of the no electronic rule is to keep electronics from increasing the effectiveness of a bow.  Cameras and lighted nocks dont do that. 

I hope that article is way off about the number of animals being killed and wounded and not recovered though.

Agree that I dont care about the lighted nock issue, it is only a matter of time......
But really think the only advantage is being able to find your arrow in the dark.
They do look cool in flight though.....
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[boneaddict]

Brilliant......as an excuse to use the cute little toy you are going to tell all of the non hunting population (aka future anti hunters/bleeding hearts) that bowhunters wound game and don't find them.   He can poll me if he'd like.    Also release numbers based on 50 folks.   Brilliant again. 

and then if we stand up to our own on here because they take dumb shots, don't put in the appropriate effort to recover game, etc we are chastised as being too hard on someone or feeding to the anti hunters.   WHATEVER!   In this case being stonehard better than the average Blok, isn't such a bad thing.

ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED by a glow in the dark arrow.   BRILLIANT AGAIN!

[dscubame]

 

[boneaddict]

 :dunno:I wonder if lighted arrows are a bandaid for bad ethics or decisions?


 

[boneaddict]

oh yeah, I can see why you might be shrugging your shoulders or have a hard time understanding where I am coming from......

Let it be and go shoot another one they won't all Houdini on you.

and I can see why you might consider myself included with a bunch of other people in this state when you look at things with this kind of attitude. 

All the elitest, know it all, opinionated, self centered, holyier than thou, wanna be, judgemental...... folks that is common amongst the hunting community.

[NWWABOWHNTR]

His arguments give all bowhunters a black eye.  He also argues that only 8% of the bowhunters are represented by the 3 Archery organizations.  A better statement would be that 10% of bowhunters are actually PAID members in good standing with one of the 3 Archery Organizations (TBW/WSAA/WSB).... I can tell you that the WSAA represents all of our clubs and members of those clubs, not just the several members of each club which is a paid WSAA member.  We have on average 700-800 paid members every year, and we also have over 42 clubs that are a part of the WSAA, with memberships in those individual clubs on average around 100-125.  All of their voices are heard as the club board members come to our convention.  Mr Sutton is on a crusade that is painting all bowhunters as unethical buffoons who cannot track an animal, cannot shoot their bow effectively and are just clowns running loose who wound and lose animals every year.  Yet,  this lighted 1/2 piece of plastic at the end of my arrow will cure all?  Give me a break.  Lets get mandatory Bowhunter education passed.  Not to mention that Pope and Young stand fast against the lit nock.

[3Under]

I have an idea... let's legalize both lighted nocks and barbed expandable broadheads.  Arrow sticks in the animal, and the nock lights the way to the wounded critter.  That way we can take those 80-100 yd shots at dusk and not worry about losing game.

[boneaddict]

Funny thing is I could careless about the lighted thing except its infringement on tradition or primitive weapons status.   I wouldn't spend the money for them as I don't need them, even if they were legal, for my Trad set up or my compound.  Its ALL OF the lobbying, and positioning of the pros for the device.   This guy is a prime example, and all of the finger pointing that has gone on about elitists etc just because there are follks that have a different opinion.   The other folks that are pro this device like Pope(Shawn) of the WSB, probably should urge this guy to shut up. 

[rasbo]

how bout be happy with what you have,geez in another year the bows will be shooting at muzzle loader speeds..Its really getting ridiculous as to what, or maybe I should say how easy some want hunting with a bow to be..flame away but I'm thinking the whole bow hunting idea was to be a little more demanding on the hunter..To be more in tune with nature....Maybe I'm missing something

[Kain]

how bout be happy with what you have,geez in another year the bows will be shooting at muzzle loader speeds..Its really getting ridiculous as to what, or maybe I should say how easy some want hunting with a bow to be..flame away but I'm thinking the whole bow hunting idea was to be a little more demanding on the hunter..To be more in tune with nature....Maybe I'm missing something

I agree but even with all the advancements I dont really see a difference in harvest percentages.  It is still around 25%.  The hard part is still getting close and drawing the bow without being detected.  I dont know when it will change because you are right, the technology will eventually close that gap (we might already be there).  Same with advancements in muzzleloaders and rifles.  It used to be a 200 yard shot with a MZ was only for the REALLY good or the REALLY stupid. 

Harvest levels will start to go up and the seasons will have to be shortened and or more restrictive.  I dont think that lighted nocks will be the thing to do it but we are getting close.  I say allow them during modern firearms season.  Those guys that think they HAVE to have them can still use them and the archery season can stay primitive(ish).  I would also like to see an exception for lighted pins for night hunting predators but I can already hear all the people screaming about deer poachers pretending they are coyote hunting.

[rasbo]

I feel the same about muzzies,getting to advanced for what it was supposed to be in my mind