Hounds and Beagles. Pictures.

[Special T]

BP dont some of the collars now have a combined gps and shock collar combo? that way you can track down your dog with a map overlay?

[time2hunt]

AFTER THE HUNT 

[bearpaw]

BP dont some of the collars now have a combined gps and shock collar combo? that way you can track down your dog with a map overlay?

I'm not sure, hunters would like 1 unit, but I do not know if one is available. Equipment has been changing, maybe someone else has more info....

[Machias]

The 2 mile range would be a Trashbreaker. 
 
You have to be a little careful with shock collars you can do more harm then good if you have an itchy trigger finger...err thumb.  I use mine for two reasons, trash breaking and for long distance recall.  I start working with a 6 foot leash and get the dog to understand the Come command, then we go to a 25 foot check chord, then they wear a dummy shock collar for several days while we continue working on obediance.  Then in a big yard I let them go.  Almost without fail the first time I say come when they are off leash I'll get the look, yea right.  Then on the lowest setting I will hit them.  Usually they will stop and look around like what the heck was that.  Then I'll say COME, and if they don't head my way right then and there they get a bit more juice.  Usually they are trying to get out of their skin trying to get back to me.  Lots of praise and love when they get to me.  Then it's just repetition over the next few days weeks and months.  I NEVER EVER shock one off game unless I know for sure what they are running, even if I'm pretty sure I know they are running something they are not supposed to I don't shock them.  ONLY when I know for sure.  I usually try and set them up for failure, see deer or elk and road them into the deer or elk and then take appropriate action.  For running trash they get the highest setting.  Usually doesn't take more than a time or two.  That's why you have to be careful not to let them get collar wise. 
 
Little story, I had a Half Cameron Bluetick and a Smokey River Bluetick a few years ago.  They opened up on the way back to the truck and in the area they were running I figured it was a deer, then they fell treed on a sticker tree.  I was certain it was a damn porky.  I had such a strong urge to shock them both, but since I was not certain I did not.  I got to the tree and shined my light up and right into the eyes of my biggest WA coon ever.  I could have done some real damage if I'd have let my impulse take over.

[buckhorn2]

I used to have fun riding around following a bluetick female trotting down the road in front of the truck. We mostley treed bobcats but got to see lots of deer and elk and stopping to look at tracks. Loved to listen to the dogs when they opened up on fresh tracks it sure is sad they took so much away from us drinking coffee and telling storys and following dogs took up lots of time between hunting seasons.

[Swannytheswan]

  my neighbors had a creek right across the road from us when I was little and coon hunters always ran that creek and I would sit out on the deck on a summer night and listen to the dog run I love hearing a hound open up on a trail. and in highschool my friends had dogs and we ran them all the time. It don't get much better than that!

[Donaye37]

The 2 mile range would be a Trashbreaker. 
 
You have to be a little careful with shock collars you can do more harm then good if you have an itchy trigger finger...err thumb.  I use mine for two reasons, trash breaking and for long distance recall.  I start working with a 6 foot leash and get the dog to understand the Come command, then we go to a 25 foot check chord, then they wear a dummy shock collar for several days while we continue working on obediance.  Then in a big yard I let them go.  Almost without fail the first time I say come when they are off leash I'll get the look, yea right.  Then on the lowest setting I will hit them.  Usually they will stop and look around like what the heck was that.  Then I'll say COME, and if they don't head my way right then and there they get a bit more juice.  Usually they are trying to get out of their skin trying to get back to me.  Lots of praise and love when they get to me.  Then it's just repetition over the next few days weeks and months.  I NEVER EVER shock one off game unless I know for sure what they are running, even if I'm pretty sure I know they are running something they are not supposed to I don't shock them.  ONLY when I know for sure.  I usually try and set them up for failure, see deer or elk and road them into the deer or elk and then take appropriate action.  For running trash they get the highest setting.  Usually doesn't take more than a time or two.  That's why you have to be careful not to let them get collar wise. 
 
Little story, I had a Half Cameron Bluetick and a Smokey River Bluetick a few years ago.  They opened up on the way back to the truck and in the area they were running I figured it was a deer, then they fell treed on a sticker tree.  I was certain it was a damn porky.  I had such a strong urge to shock them both, but since I was not certain I did not.  I got to the tree and shined my light up and right into the eyes of my biggest WA coon ever.  I could have done some real damage if I'd have let my impulse take over.

Thanks for the tips they help alot. Cant wait to get some tra oj ning in with ya with my pup.

[bearpaw]

Here's a photo of Pam (one of my son's dogs) with a litter of Treeing Walker puppies.... 

[Machias]

 

[Special T]

BP how many hounds do you need to keep in your pack to run you guide business? can you take more than 1 group out hound hunting at a time?

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

My grandfather had some italian fox hounds bred for big game.  He killed alot of bear and cougars.  To bad its outlawed here i wish i could have been a part of that.

[bearpaw]

BP how many hounds do you need to keep in your pack to run you guide business? can you take more than 1 group out hound hunting at a time?

There are three of us who are experienced doggers. We each have our own dogs, so we can hunt 3 hunters at once and each hunter will have their own guide and hounds.

FYI - One good dog will catch nearly all cougar. But the dogs have much more safety when 3 or more are hunted together because cougar can be deadly on dogs if they want to be.

[Ranger91298]

So I am curious...when I finally get out of the military I thought about buying a few dogs to chase lion/bears with but I have ZERO experience. How much does it cost to buy a already trined dog (Average) vs. a young untrained dog? How does one train a dog with little or no experience? Is there a website/book that a guy could read to get familiar with it? I would think if you knew someone that already ran dogs who would let you run dog with their group it would be a big help to get them trained... thank you for any insight...

[bearpaw]

Good dogs are priceless and inexperienced dogs are usually cheap or even free. In hound hunting the quality of the dog and knowledge of the handler results in the success of your hunts. Good trained dogs are going to cost from $2000 to ?. It's not uncommon for top hounds to sell for $5000 or more per dog.

Inexperienced hounds are cheap because nobody wants them. One good dog will catch more game than 10 inexperienced dogs ever will. Plus one good dog will teach you how to be a better dogger.

If you can find a friend to hunt with that's a big help, but only hunt one inexperienced dog at a time with the good dogs, two inxperienced dogs will get themselves into trouble together.

There's more info about hunting with hounds in Full Cry Magazine or on www.Biggamehoundsmen.com

[Machias]

You could easily drop $10,000 to $12,000 just to get started into hound hunting.  Can be done cheaper, but the learning curve is much longer.  Figure $2500 to $5000 for a good dog, $1000 to $1500 for a good started dog and maybe $250-$300 for a good pup out of proven lines.  $800-$1000 for a tracker and collars, $650-$850 for a shocking unit and collars, kennels $600, $500-$700 for a dogbox.  ATV or snowmobile...or both...or an ATV with tracks, It adds up real fast.