Oh how I miss hunting my dogs .
Seemed to me halfway descent dogs are always able to figure out when they are on the backtrack. Usually get it turned around in a minute or 3.
And the only time I ever used the shock collar is when they do something bad like run a yote or deer. I didnt have that many issues with this as I took care of it at a good year old. Never shocked a young dog till he was running well on track and treeing if I could help it. Right or wrong, I dont know but thats how I did it??