Free: Contests & Raffles.
Yeah this whole thing is all messed up. I would imagine that there are going to be tons of people violating access without even having knowledge that those parcels are Rayonier permit only this year. Thanks for the info AKBowman.
6. No persons other than PERMITTEE shall enter on or use the Lands under this Access Permit unless such person is in the company of PERMITEE and has a fully executed Companion Access Permit, Release and Waiver of Liability Indemnity and Hold Harmless Agreement. PERMITTEE may request a Companion Access Permit by e-mailing hunting@rayonier.com, or by calling 855-729-4868. That was supposed to paste on the last post. I was near there last weekend and talked to a few of the timber fallers who have been working in there and they said it is already a damn zoo in there with all the quads and camps. Idiots are riding thier quads out of the permit area and into surrounding timber co land OUT of the permit area. Anyone who bought that permit is...well they are not going to get what they paid for. Basically its access to a spot to camp and ride your ATV, have fun.
I ran into and spoke with the head timberlands manager/head of Rayonier security last week. I learned three things1. There is NO access unless you are a permit holder. NONE.ZERO.ZILCH. It doesn't matter what your excuse is. 2. The only reason for the permit program is that is costs money to allow public access and therefore Rayonier is getting out of the free access business.3. Rayonier is going to aggressively pursue trespassers and prosecute them with great zeal. No warnings will be given.
Just made a trip down to Williams creek unit saturday. Tried going in at the Nemah Hatchery road. Gated right after the hatchery. Sign says Hancock timber company. They do allow you to walk in behind the gate. Drove about a mile south and went in at Jorgenson Slough. Followed that all the way down till it hit the main line just a 1/2 mile BEHIND the closed gate. Did some more driving around and all the other areas seemed to be open. You really need to follow your map to stay on land thats open to vehicles. I was thinking about hunting there, but between off limit roads and new clearcuts, I am thinking about somewhere different. Plan B.
Quote from: archerE on August 29, 2011, 06:16:38 PMJust made a trip down to Williams creek unit saturday. Tried going in at the Nemah Hatchery road. Gated right after the hatchery. Sign says Hancock timber company. They do allow you to walk in behind the gate. Drove about a mile south and went in at Jorgenson Slough. Followed that all the way down till it hit the main line just a 1/2 mile BEHIND the closed gate. Did some more driving around and all the other areas seemed to be open. You really need to follow your map to stay on land thats open to vehicles. I was thinking about hunting there, but between off limit roads and new clearcuts, I am thinking about somewhere different. Plan B.Hancock is not Rayonier, access is not that complicated. Although, I guess if you are trying to learn a new area......I hear there are Elk in the Colockum....................It might not be easy to figure out where to drive, but the areas to hunt are still the same I know my areas, DNR (State Land) and Hancock, are open to walk in w/o permit.
The impression I got was that Rayonier is not particularly concerned with being "open book" about this stuff. The attitude is pretty much that its closed and thats all you need to know. They don't seem particularly concerned with keeping the general public abreast of all the details. Unfortunately, I did not write the name down or get a card. "He" is a her. She introduced herself as the head of security and thats what I have to go on.I have called 1-855-729-4868 before and asked questions. The woman at that number has at least been helpful in answering questions.If you want to voice your opinion, try that number. I was told that the current permit system is somewhat of a trial, and is subject to change based on how things have gone so far and this season. But I expect regardless of what changes in the future, its going to cost money and probably more than what it was this year.
It's unfortunate that the Nemah road is gated just past the hatchery, but if there is another way in to the main line from a different road like you say there is, it is totally worth it. Because that road is now gated, I bet you'll see a number of lazy hunters turn around at the gate and go elsewhere. That main line takes you in to some of the best cuts and road systems in the Willapas, you just have to do some driving. The fact that a bunch of them are now gated makes it all the better. I would seriously reconsider your decision to go elsewhere at this point, especially if you've been scouting this area already. Thanks to college, I don't hunt down there much anymore, but if I had the time, I'd be there for the opener.
