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Offline Little Red Wagon

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well i mean lets lock the gates to keep natives from driving there truck on the roads n road hunt.. but its not to keep white guys from chasing elk and hunting on there quads.. i love it you guys act so inocent..

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theres no white guy hunting that time of the year when there feeding the elk!   :bash:

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!! Can we say cry me an effing river wasington.com or is it let me tell and complain about the Indians Washington.Com??   Either or it's always telling on the Indians or complaining... Beat the Horse... wait it's dead... get over it all ready!!! :sry:
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!! Can we say cry me an effing river wasington.com or is it let me tell and complain about the Indians Washington.Com??   Either or it's always telling on the Indians or complaining... Beat the Horse... wait it's dead... get over it all ready!!! :sry:

ummm no the horses most definitely arent dead and cheval is good eats and the rez appears to be over run with them ;) just saying if I was hungry well I saw a whole lot more horses than anything else ...was hoping for a glimpse of the speed goats.

NO ONE should be hunting on the winter feeding grounds inside the fence....for elk

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Some of your native screen names crack me up!  :chuckle: Wagon-Burner??? I can see your here to make friends...  :chuckle:
Tribes have a real opportunity to help this states Fish & Game population...

Fact Every one knows the WDFW is effing us..
Fact tribes have mush more power and latitude when it comes to game than the rest of us...

If i was a native (which i am not unfortunately)I would be pressing As hard as i could for all forms of predator contol. Wolves, Sealions, magpies, crows, you name it... I would do this for 2 reasons.
1 on the rez and i think on ceded lands all you have to do is follow fed laws, along with tribal.
2 to get an exception to fed laws you have a fast lane..
Take the Makah for example and their whale hunts... if Wa and Or tribes banded together to put the squeeze on sea lions (which no longer need ESA protection) and many other forms of predators Indians would help  everyone...

Lets just look at the recent example of the antelope reintroduction... the WDFW bilked 300k out of people in studies! so the Yaks said " if you pay we'll bring them here." BOOM! Its done...
Don't you think that every White commercial fisherman would foot the bill for a layer challenging a tribal sea lion hunting season? Hell i'd give  money for a bounty and i don't commercial fish!

I know a lot of Indians get tired of the hate, but i think you guys are missing the boat on a real opportunity..   :twocents:
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the makah tribe retained the right to hunt whales and sea lions....they are one of the only tribes in the lower 48 who did this and I have no idea why they havent pushed the sea lion issue?  :dunno: not enough controversy or money if I had to guess....
the "tribes" are political organizations just as is our "government" 

the problem lies in "people" of America being screwed and treated unequally ..... its not even about fair...life aint fricken fair..... if it was I would be a real princess with all the perks.....I am not I am just a girl with few perks but lots of great people pulling for me ;)

anyone who cares about the true conservation of elk is not gonna think its a good idea to shoot them when penned up and being fed hay/pellets  :dunno:

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Some of your native screen names crack me up!  :chuckle: Wagon-Burner??? I can see your here to make friends...  :chuckle:
Tribes have a real opportunity to help this states Fish & Game population...

Fact Every one knows the WDFW is effing us..
Fact tribes have mush more power and latitude when it comes to game than the rest of us...

If i was a native (which i am not unfortunately)I would be pressing As hard as i could for all forms of predator contol. Wolves, Sealions, magpies, crows, you name it... I would do this for 2 reasons.
1 on the rez and i think on ceded lands all you have to do is follow fed laws, along with tribal.
2 to get an exception to fed laws you have a fast lane..
Take the Makah for example and their whale hunts... if Wa and Or tribes banded together to put the squeeze on sea lions (which no longer need ESA protection) and many other forms of predators Indians would help  everyone...

Lets just look at the recent example of the antelope reintroduction... the WDFW bilked 300k out of people in studies! so the Yaks said " if you pay we'll bring them here." BOOM! Its done...
Don't you think that every White commercial fisherman would foot the bill for a layer challenging a tribal sea lion hunting season? Hell i'd give  money for a bounty and i don't commercial fish!

I know a lot of Indians get tired of the hate, but i think you guys are missing the boat on a real opportunity..   :twocents:

   Hate has nothing to do with if for me.  With spike only elk, 3pt min. deer, short enough season with little to no late season and the over 1k spent each year on lic tags and gear, yea I would just like a more even playing field and hold native hunters to the same standard as the rest of Washington hunters as in no hunting in obviouse areas for obviouse reasons. This state can afford to have washed out roads patroled during our hunting season but not enforce no hunting in or around the feeding station during the winter month??? LOL 
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My comments were directed more at our native friends... My father always had a business saying...We can argue where we need to spend the money, or we can make more and we can both do what we want...  For what ever reason the WDFW is in love with predators, so the one thing i think we could all get behind is reducing their numbers.
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How about snow machines can I chase all the animals like some of you do?

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Yes if you chase coyotes wolves and cougars!
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there u  go acting inocent agin... well i just boughgt a snow machine.. so i am making a sled to pull behind it. has to be able to pull a large load... ;)... oh ya n chasing wolves cougars n yotes.. please... i blast yoties every time i see them.. and i ask state fish n game if they want me to shoot cougars when i see them because i see what they do to deer heards... but state fish and game say leave them alone. and the wolf thing i wouldnt mind blasting one. but thats another topic. there has been wovles on our rez for years and they havent been a problem. but i havent seen what they have done of the rez tho..

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I have a serious question that maybe someone like plateau or coastal can answer for me. Since the tribes are entitled to 50% of the harvests. Shouldn't they then have to pay half the costs of maintaiming those resources? Why is the wdfw and US Americans paying all of it.
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I have a serious question that maybe someone like plateau or coastal can answer for me. Since the tribes are entitled to 50% of the harvests. Shouldn't they then have to pay half the costs of maintaiming those resources? Why is the wdfw and US Americans paying all of it.

Because the WDFW and US Americans are afraid of their own shadows. What would it be like if WE had the laws of the old days now ? Different story I bet.
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there u  go acting inocent agin... well i just boughgt a snow machine.. so i am making a sled to pull behind it. has to be able to pull a large load... ;)... oh ya n chasing wolves cougars n yotes.. please... i blast yoties every time i see them.. and i ask state fish n game if they want me to shoot cougars when i see them because i see what they do to deer heards... but state fish and game say leave them alone. and the wolf thing i wouldnt mind blasting one. but thats another topic. there has been wovles on our rez for years and they havent been a problem. but i havent seen what they have done of the rez tho..


wagon burners are not so good for deer herds either, and they don't let us shoot them.
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Ndn, sorry if I offended you. I will axe my post. I appreciate posts from many of the natives who act like reasonable citizens. If I were to call a native a "wagon burner", I would be charged with a hate crime and facing 5 to 10. I do my best to understand your situation, although I am not in agreement always. My feeling is that as long as you have members flaunting their rights in the faces of non members, you are going to have hate facing you. My grandpa could sympathize with yours, because he knew of the hardships that were faced. The current generation has no idea what that is like, if they did their would be a lot more pride shown......not just a sticker on a car. The morals of people both tribal and non are slipping hard, and it is not a good thing.

I again apologize if you were offended, and to wagon burner, I hope to see you banned or change your user name to something that does not make people want to play cowboys and Indians again.

 


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