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Offline MattySuto

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Bad Genes Buck
« on: August 28, 2011, 02:20:09 PM »
This guy is on the top of my list gotta shot him cause his Genes are spreading.....

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2011, 02:43:35 PM »
I got one like that around my house that needs to die before he does much damage.
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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2011, 02:50:08 PM »
Looks like he'd make a great first buck for a kid!

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2011, 04:27:13 PM »
Looks like he'd make a great first buck for a kid!

Agree.  Good buck for a first year young hunter..

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 09:03:57 PM »
I couldn't agree more fellas but I'm prolly gonna take him cause theres a bigger one and better looking rack that I will let my buddies who owns the land son shoot let him get the trophy....

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 09:17:14 PM »
 :tup: That is very good of you
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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 09:27:40 PM »
Feed the yotees with that tard.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2011, 09:51:27 PM »
Someone explain to me how genetics plays a role in what his antlers look like?  And how they can tell form just looking at it?  Read the literature guy's there has been a bunch of work done on antler growth as I have stated before.

Sorry to just barge in but talk like this makes hunters sound bad.  We should never think like this!  My bet is he had an injury on his right side during antler development.  Something as simple as a sprained joint during antler development can cause the antler on the opposite side to grow funny.  Depending on the severity he will only have this for one or two cycles in some extreme cases it could be life time. 

Nature does not count points or symmetry.  So a perfectly healthy deer could only be a two point all it life an into old age.  It lived because it was smarter then the others.  All deer are trophy's depending on how hard you worked for them.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2011, 10:05:46 PM »
Someone explain to me how genetics plays a role in what his antlers look like?  And how they can tell form just looking at it?  Read the literature guy's there has been a bunch of work done on antler growth as I have stated before.
There's an entire industry for whitetails based on deer genetics.  There are some really expensive deer stud fees, on par with that of horses.  The private ranches have been selectively breeding deer for years, and the combinations of feed and genetics are producing big animals.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2011, 10:12:56 PM »
Genetics play a huge part in the POTENTIAL of what a deer's antler growth will be.  GENETICS determine what ALL organisms have the potential to be, including humans.  If a deer has "bad" antler genes, there is no amount of nutrition or favorable conditions that will allow it to grow more antler than its genes will provide.  Of course environmental factors including nutrition and injury have a seasonal and possibly permanent role in growth as well.

If this is the first year this buck has shown up with this assymetrical growth, there is a good chance that it was caused by some sort of injury.  However, if this is the second or more year it has shown up, then it is likely genetic and depending on the goals of the landowner, could be culled from the herd.

He looks to be a young animal to me, so I would likely give him a chance for another year to see what he will become.  Being on the small side, he is unlikely to sire any fawns unless the buck to doe ratio ion the area is really low.

We have provided vitamins and minerals as well as high protein feed for our local deer and, unfortunately, have no hope in heck of ever getting bucks that go four point or better.

As far as this kind of "talk" or thinking being bad, why?  It is called management.  States and, yes, even individuals manage game populations for many reasons and goals.  The state seems to want to remove elk on the eastside that are spikes.  This would include young animals and older ones with "bad" antler genes.  I am not saying whether this is good or bad, it is just management.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2011, 11:40:11 PM »
Looks like meat to me.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 01:17:40 AM »
Look at the snout on that thing, just a baby.  Agreed about the being injured with weird antler growth, shot a 4x3 mule deer once with the 3 pt side abnormal and pulled a chunk of 22 lead out of his opposite front leg.  Wifes first buck was a 3 pt blacktail with a back hoof that wouldn't bend and permanently pointed straight down and was rounded off, once again opposite antler was weak and funky.  However defiantly agree about genes playing a major roll in antler growth and size, its a fact.  But in the end everybody is right on this site, you get to put meat in the freezer, and the kid bags the big one, everybody winners!
When you see the third, thin the herd.
Right now I'm somewhere picking up sheds.

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2011, 05:44:32 AM »
I don't think it was a sprain I will post later his son who is only a year old.... You can tell it's genetics he is forking on his left side and on his right side it's just like this guys I will post it ASAP.... That's kinda why i posted this I am very glad and happy to read an learn a few things that was said....

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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »
Suto,
Hey that looks like a certain north end buck I have seen around here.. get him out of the gene pool! 
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Re: Bad Genes Buck
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 02:33:17 PM »
Suto,
Hey that looks like a certain north end buck I have seen around here.. get him out of the gene pool!


He's Top priority Ren .... But I also have to not waste my tag... If you PM me your number I'll sent you a Pic of what I really am going after.... Beauty!!!!

 


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