Tanks for all the input and replies, i appreciate it. I guess maybe i should have worded my question a litle diffrent. I am well aware of boning out for longer packs and all, but am concerened with how much time i have i guess. Where i have killed all my elk, it takes about 12-14 hours from kill to cooler. Is that too long in 80 degree weather? 70? I did kill 1 in 80 degree temps, but i was very luck and was able to get cell phone service to get my partener in to pick me/it up. Thats no longer an option so i am worried I cant get one out in time this year. granted where i camp is dark and cool next to the river so i can hang meat there.....