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Re: Wolfer
« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2011, 05:17:50 PM »
No worries Lowedog  :chuckle:  you can read the info at other sources too. I am glad WDFW is finally documenting wolves in Washington, but they need more trappers. Wolves are literally breeding faster in Washington than they are documenting them, WDFW needs to show the public that they can handle wolf management, they need to hire a few more trappers and get more of these packs documented.
Here's more info from Niemeyer:

http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2011/02/02/niemeyer-wolves-didnt-kill-cow-near-eagle-last-week/

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The ranch foreman in charge of the cow herd near Eagle, who reported a dead cow to Wildlife Services, was gracious enough to let me, my wife, Jenny, and Suzanne Stone (Defenders of Wildlife) take a look at the cow carcass.


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A point I need to make here is that in all my years of investigating wolf damage to livestock I have verified only two incidents where wolves have killed adult cows. I have never seen a situation where a bull, mule or horse have been killed. I’ve had more opportunity than most people to investigate wolf damage to livestock, so I am telling you, without equivocation, that it would be an extremely rare incident to see wolves kill large livestock. Wolves do not expend a lot of energy killing large prey unless they are hungry, regardless of the stories being told in the media and on blogs. When they do kill large prey, an individual wolf can consume 10-20 pounds of meat in a single feeding. Very little meat was eaten from the cow carcass except from visits by coyotes and an eagle.

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I am no longer employed by any agency, and my opinion doesn’t change the outcome of this event. The government has authorized some wolves to die and I don’t expect that my conclusions will change that outcome either. I just wanted to express my opinion and remind the public that livestock depredation incidents need to be investigated professionally, and with transparency and oversight, because I think wolves have been, and continue to be, taking a bad rap for problems they do not create.


Mr Niemeyer seems to have a habit of marginalizing wolves if you ask me. Wolves will kill to eat if they are hungry. Now see the following info proving wolves kill many large livestock animals:

http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/wolf/wyomingstatus2011/07182010-wyoming-gray-wolf-report.html
http://washingtonwolf.info/livestock_attacks.html
http://missoulian.com/news/local/article_24fec5a8-018c-11df-bdbc-001cc4c03286.html
http://graywolfnews.com/pdf/wolf_depredation_87-08.pdf

Russia, Pack of 400 Wolves kill 30 horses: 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354445/Super-pack-400-wolves-kill-30-horses-just-days-remote-Russian-village.html
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Re: Wolfer
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2011, 05:06:57 PM »
Just finished reading Wolfer.  Excellent read!  Very intriguing.   
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Re: Wolfer
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2011, 09:31:57 AM »
I have interacted with Mr. Niemeyer three times: once related to wolverine depredation on domestic sheep in Wyoming, once when he was with USDA-WS and put on a wolf depredation ID workshop for WY G&F, and once when he put on a similar workshop for WDFW wildlife and enforcement.
 
I found him to be a very straight shooter, highly knowledgeable and very matter-of-fact about what predators do to individual animals, both wild and domestic.  I've not heard him engage on population-level impacts, and haven't been aware of him getting involved on policy-level wolf issues - that may have changed, I haven't seen or followed what he's been up to for 4-5 years.  He was, through that time, more of a foot soldier than a general.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

 


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