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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2011, 08:45:27 AM »
I need to marry me a nice Indian gal.  :tung:

I did and all I can say is be carefull what you wish for!
 Black eye and a hickie = Indian love :chuckle:
I still love her though

Indian girls are a mean bunch. Date at your own risk.

 :yeah:   :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:  Don't find one that's bigger than you or she'll be doing this for the rest of your life :spank_butt:  I take that back they all do that regardless.  Gotta love them though!

 :yeah:  :lol4:

My wife is part Blackfoot.  I'm a foot taller than her and literally twice her size, yet I choose my battles carefully with her since I long ago accepted the fact that she'd absolutely clean my clock any day of the week if we ever :boxin:

Oh yeah!  Back in the day I used to see girls square off and fight guys!  They don't care if you piss them off holy @$^% watch out!!!!   
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2011, 08:54:58 AM »
I need to marry me a nice Indian gal.  :tung:

I did and all I can say is be carefull what you wish for!
 Black eye and a hickie = Indian love :chuckle:
I still love her though

Indian girls are a mean bunch. Date at your own risk.

 :yeah:   :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:  Don't find one that's bigger than you or she'll be doing this for the rest of your life :spank_butt:  I take that back they all do that regardless.  Gotta love them though!

 :yeah:  :lol4:

My wife is part Blackfoot.  I'm a foot taller than her and literally twice her size, yet I choose my battles carefully with her since I long ago accepted the fact that she'd absolutely clean my clock any day of the week if we ever :boxin:

Oh yeah!  Back in the day I used to see girls square off and fight guys!  They don't care if you piss them off holy @$^% watch out!!!!   

We were in a bar in Butte one time visiting some friends and some random drunk guy felt obligated to grab her behind.  I hadn't even had the chance to get off my barstool to confront him before she caught him with a solid right hook.  Knocked him back onto his own behind  :tup:

I was proud as heck and also relieved - bar fights in Butte don't typically end well for non-locals.  However in this case the local and his group were kicked out and the remaining locals picked up mine and my friend's tabs the rest of the night  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2011, 07:01:36 PM »
if i had the same hunting rights as natives i would without a doubt keep a generous amount of meat in the freezer, i cant get mad at somebody for doing something that they are allowed to do. a native can wake up in his house to coffee that was set to brew at the same time his alarm went off, warm up the truck and grab his rifle and swarovski optics then head off to their ancestors hunting grounds 100 miles away. it will take about an hour and a half to get there maybe 2 if they stop for gas and a mcgriddle, charge the cell phone on the way and crank the tunes, holding on to that native way of life right? natives should never be told how to manage game on the reservations but it is total BS to let them have free reign to go pop a big bull in the collockum and sell the horns when i have to pay up just to put my name in a hat and then get a not selected post card year after year. to give them more rights then i have because my ancestors did their anscestors dirty doesn't make any cense to me. i cant go pick up arrowheads in vantage and sell them but they can make profit from the elk herd that i have to pay to hunt for two coweeks out of the year with everyone else in the state willing to pay up for a true spike. american history is violent and cruel but i guess i just dont feel like i owe you anything. if we can have a black president, women and yes even natives can vote and in this day and age all people are supposed to be equal then why does "i was here first" give you more rights than me. god bless america?

Sounds like you should be mad at the state for their regulations, it sounds like you have a problem with them. Why dont we start a thread on how unfair the state is instead of attacking a group that has something that you want. Start a constructive thread that can come up with ideas to show your law makers to get it changed for the better.

my problem is with the state, i really meant i cant get mad at them cause i would do the same thing, i dont know if they do sell any antler but to even give them that option is just incentive to kill big animals. i would never sell antler but some in any race would so some natives must. does anyone else think its crazy that they still get to hunt because dead relatives hunted, if my dead relatives were mountain men and i went off the grid and hunted for survival then i'd be an outlaw poacher but they they can hunt year round. crazy!

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2011, 07:42:50 PM »
if i had the same hunting rights as natives i would without a doubt keep a generous amount of meat in the freezer, i cant get mad at somebody for doing something that they are allowed to do. a native can wake up in his house to coffee that was set to brew at the same time his alarm went off, warm up the truck and grab his rifle and swarovski optics then head off to their ancestors hunting grounds 100 miles away. it will take about an hour and a half to get there maybe 2 if they stop for gas and a mcgriddle, charge the cell phone on the way and crank the tunes, holding on to that native way of life right? natives should never be told how to manage game on the reservations but it is total BS to let them have free reign to go pop a big bull in the collockum and sell the horns when i have to pay up just to put my name in a hat and then get a not selected post card year after year. to give them more rights then i have because my ancestors did their anscestors dirty doesn't make any cense to me. i cant go pick up arrowheads in vantage and sell them but they can make profit from the elk herd that i have to pay to hunt for two weeks out of the year with everyone else in the state willing to pay up for a true spike. american history is violent and cruel but i guess i just dont feel like i owe you anything. if we can have a black president, women and yes even natives can vote and in this day and age all people are supposed to be equal then why does "i was here first" give you more rights than me. god bless america?

Sounds like you should be mad at the state for their regulations, it sounds like you have a problem with them. Why dont we start a thread on how unfair the state is instead of attacking a group that has something that you want. Start a constructive thread that can come up with ideas to show your law makers to get it changed for the better.

Nice thought there Inchtown, but the reality is, until the tribes and or Federal Government are willing to tear up the treaties, and then be on equal footing with everyone else, and not have special rights, then nothing will or can be done to change it for the better.. .absolutely nothing.

The tribes and treaties have nothing to do with you. Thats why I said come up with ideas to pass on to the state to make your hunting better or to your standards.

Now back to this mean Indian women, my cousin was punched by this guy and she laughed at him and asked is that all you got.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2011, 07:51:58 PM »
if i had the same hunting rights as natives i would without a doubt keep a generous amount of meat in the freezer, i cant get mad at somebody for doing something that they are allowed to do. a native can wake up in his house to coffee that was set to brew at the same time his alarm went off, warm up the truck and grab his rifle and swarovski optics then head off to their ancestors hunting grounds 100 miles away. it will take about an hour and a half to get there maybe 2 if they stop for gas and a mcgriddle, charge the cell phone on the way and crank the tunes, holding on to that native way of life right? natives should never be told how to manage game on the reservations but it is total BS to let them have free reign to go pop a big bull in the collockum and sell the horns when i have to pay up just to put my name in a hat and then get a not selected post card year after year. to give them more rights then i have because my ancestors did their anscestors dirty doesn't make any cense to me. i cant go pick up arrowheads in vantage and sell them but they can make profit from the elk herd that i have to pay to hunt for two coweeks out of the year with everyone else in the state willing to pay up for a true spike. american history is violent and cruel but i guess i just dont feel like i owe you anything. if we can have a black president, women and yes even natives can vote and in this day and age all people are supposed to be equal then why does "i was here first" give you more rights than me. god bless america?

Sounds like you should be mad at the state for their regulations, it sounds like you have a problem with them. Why dont we start a thread on how unfair the state is instead of attacking a group that has something that you want. Start a constructive thread that can come up with ideas to show your law makers to get it changed for the better.

my problem is with the state, i really meant i cant get mad at them cause i would do the same thing, i dont know if they do sell any antler but to even give them that option is just incentive to kill big animals. i would never sell antler but some in any race would so some natives must. does anyone else think its crazy that they still get to hunt because dead relatives hunted, if my dead relatives were mountain men and i went off the grid and hunted for survival then i'd be an outlaw poacher but they they can hunt year round. crazy!

Colvilles cant hunt year round, we have seasons they just last longer then the state. We can sell antlers on our reservation though and I do agree it can open the door for head hunters. Our deer season is buck only june to sept and either sex is oct to dec. The only thing open year round is predators. Which I believe takes alot of pressure off our deer, especially when the fawns come around.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2011, 08:37:24 PM »
I need to marry me a nice Indian gal.  :tung:

I did and all I can say is be carefull what you wish for!
 Black eye and a hickie = Indian love :chuckle:
I still love her though

Indian girls are a mean bunch. Date at your own risk.

 :yeah:   :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:  Don't find one that's bigger than you or she'll be doing this for the rest of your life :spank_butt:  I take that back they all do that regardless.  Gotta love them though!

 :yeah:  :lol4:

My wife is part Blackfoot.  I'm a foot taller than her and literally twice her size, yet I choose my battles carefully with her since I long ago accepted the fact that she'd absolutely clean my clock any day of the week if we ever :boxin:
guess I am lucky I married a chippewa, dont have that problem  :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2011, 10:37:41 PM »
Hey inchtown I think you and some people are talking about two different things. You are talking about on reservation hunting and they are talking about the rights that some tribes have off the reservation. No one I know has a problem with on reservation hunting. It's your land so you should be able to run the show how you want to. You do what works for you.

The problem many have is off the reservation the Yakamas have no restrictions on how many branch bulls they can harvest. Or bucks. For a nontribal we have to wait 10 years to draw a tag to hunt a bull. This does not seem fair. If the state loosened the regs for us we wouldnt have any elk to hunt let alone big bulls.

It's the opinion of many that the state has impasse more and more restrictions on us and tje benefactors are the Yakamas and now the Muckleshoots, neither of which contribute a penny to big game management let alone do research or provide harvest reports.

Furthermore A LOT of the "hunting" is done during the winter at or near feed stations and in the wintering ground. This is also the most visible portion of tribal hunters so they get a bad rap when we see time and time again tribal members shooting from the road killing a few elk driving to them and staking them like chordwood. Again not all do this its just the bad apples that are most visible.

Finally in places where the herd is hurting and we see less and less permits the tribes do nothing to control harvest on their end to help conservation amd to keep a herd healthy.

For us around Yakima that shares the resources with the Yakamas we feel like the spouse who does all the work on the marriage and sacrifices while the other partner does what they want and contributes nothing to tje marriage.  FYI I think the Colvilles do an outstanding job of game managemnt and conservation.
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #97 on: October 14, 2011, 10:39:00 PM »
let me preface this with the fact that I know I am going to get a lot of s**t for what I am about about to say. call me a liberal, comment that this is my first post, blah, blah blah.....

but reading a lot of the posts on here about native americans to get over it, etc. is sick. I am not going to get into all my politics about why I feel this way because frankly I don't think a lot of you care. but I encourage  some of you to pick up a history book or two. these are the laws. we put native americans in corners of the country and said sorry. it is sick and wrong that you all want to blame a tribe. I have been working in the Okanogan area for the past 18 months and the really f****d thing is that more then 70% of the locals poach. honestly I really don't care what the tribes do. the laws are the laws. stop complaining and go for a walk in the woods and try to get along. hunters arguing with other hunters just feeds all the anti-hunters and makes things even harder for us.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2011, 06:02:53 AM »
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2011, 11:42:15 AM »
It was obvious that the picture wasn't of tribal members' deer- the "Bowtech" sticker on the truck was a dead giveaway. I've never heard of any "modern" indians doing their killing with a bow and arrow. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
hahahahahaha all I love that comment ...... :yeah: :o

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2011, 02:00:51 PM »
Sounds Great, where can I pick up mine up at?

No seriously, as much as I think the Native should have some special hunting, but come on enough is enough.
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2011, 07:16:08 PM »
Well I basing my stuff off the fact that the guy started the thread by posting the colvilles website. How others have said they have seen truck loads come out of the area around Republic,and they was talkin about members that was selling deer at orchards. How also we just sweep poaching under the rug and dont take care of it, I also let them know what our fines are for our tribe. Thats what I have been commenting on mainly.

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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2011, 07:48:05 PM »
That was definitely done by the Yakamas at the firing center.   8) And they definitely are pretty skilled at deer hunting.  :chuckle:

That must have been the last five deer.
If it came down to five deer left in the firing center or anywhere I bet the indians would have no problem snuffing them out. They turned the firing center to a joke, yes you still may find a big buck in there but no way near the way it was just 5 or 6 years ago. What the heck happened? Did they find out that the easiest road hunting around was out there?  I just don't get why they need to kill as much as they do, that used to be one of the best tags to draw in our state and they completely ruined it in a very short time. w t f, tired of this crap.
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2011, 08:35:32 PM »
Well I basing my stuff off the fact that the guy started the thread by posting the colvilles website. How others have said they have seen truck loads come out of the area around Republic,and they was talkin about members that was selling deer at orchards. How also we just sweep poaching under the rug and dont take care of it, I also let them know what our fines are for our tribe. Thats what I have been commenting on mainly.

I agree. I say it over and over again to people. Stop talking about it and take pictures. Without evidence its just rumors. 
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Re: Tribal Hunting.
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2011, 08:44:02 PM »
Well I basing my stuff off the fact that the guy started the thread by posting the colvilles website. How others have said they have seen truck loads come out of the area around Republic,and they was talkin about members that was selling deer at orchards. How also we just sweep poaching under the rug and dont take care of it, I also let them know what our fines are for our tribe. Thats what I have been commenting on mainly.

I agree. I say it over and over again to people. Stop talking about it and take pictures. Without evidence its just rumors.

Yeah I would love to catch them selling meat or poaching something. My grandpas field always gets hit by spot lighters they destroy fences and shoot cattle and horses.

 


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