Crying Wolf - Documentary Released

[bearpaw]

well worth the watch.... 
Excellent testimony by David Allen, RMEF as well as many others!

http://cryingwolfmovie.com/

[FC]

Thanks for this, I shared!

[runniNgunnin]

good vid! 

[firefighter4607]

Great video!!!
Did you see that Washington Wolves released some video on the OSU biologist Bill Ripple discusses the importance of wolves on ecosystems.

[remington300mag]

Great Video.....My question is this....When do we take our lands back? When do we stop letting people make decisions for us? When is enough enough?? It will never end....They will never stop.....We can stand up and pound our chests all we want, we can start groups, sign petitions, and write letters but it will not change anything!!! It will not change! One of these days we are going to have to TAKE back what is ours.....and what has been taken away!
Sorry to sound like such a gloom and doom type of person.....but mark my words.....Until we stand up TOGETHER....as ONE voice.... they will keep taking away!! There isn't going to be anything left for our kids or grand kids.....and they will only have us to blame for not standing up for ourselves!! The law makers and government agencies are not going to help..... Sooner or later it is going to be up to us.....what are we going to do?? Allow them to take it all away with their B.S......or stand up for ourselves??? Doing things the politically correct way is not...and will not work....Sad to say but it hasn't worked so far!
Wolves is only one of the issues that I am speaking of.......but we have to start somewhere!

[silverdalesauer]

 

It seems like this problem is so overwhelming, how can we make a difference. It's as if hunters across the nation need to start our own "Revolution."

Good video. As a Christian, I wish more Christians were more in tune to what's really happening to the earth given to us by our Creator.

[Swannytheswan]

  I loved that the focus of the film was Stewartship and responsibility in management as a biblical mandate. This is how I have felt for a long time and find it hard sometimes to explain to the greenies over here in seattle.

[Swannytheswan]

The root!

[Cougeyes]

Watched it, it was alright.  Clearly one-sided but still had great information, I always like to hear both sides of any debate.    Although I'm not sure on the credibility of a lot of the numbers and percentages some of the local people were throwing out, but clearly wolves have had their impact in and around Yellowstone and MT with the decrease in elk numbers. 

[firefighter4607]

Watched it, it was alright.  Clearly one-sided but still had great information, I always like to hear both sides of any debate.    Although I'm not sure on the credibility of a lot of the numbers and percentages some of the local people were throwing out, but clearly wolves have had their impact in and around Yellowstone and MT with the decrease in elk numbers. 

I don't think you will ever find one video that is both pro and con wolves. I would disagree with you on the credibility of the ranchers on that video. Wolves don't just eat elk and deer, since they are growing in numbers they will find what ever animal is around to eat. You should google livestock attacks. You will find many documents of wolf killings and the financial loss of one calf could be $400+. They have also had cattle that have lost weight do to them running and being on edge while they are on the grazing lands. Here is one site that I like with livestock attacks and figures it is very graphic. The wolves just don't affect the wild animals they also affect the ranchers way of life.
http://washingtonwolf.info/livestock_attacks.html

[Knocker of rocks]

A very fine effort by a young film maker, and a very good 45 minute documentary.  It is only marred by the fact that it is 60 minutes long. 

Very good and convincing explanation of the pressures that wolves are putting on rural communities, brings up some questions about how the process was started and funded, was the EIS process subverted, and is the endangered species status of wolves legitimate?  Also brings up how man has been part of the ecosystem ever since the Bering Straight was crossed. 

The film does falsely imply that most environmentalists believe that man is distinct from the ecosystem at large, something that has faded over the last thirty years.  For more writing by mainstream naturalists regarding the part of man in the ecosystem one could read the works of Stephen Pyne or Alston Chase.

Where the filmmaker interviews former professor Stephen Vantessel, the message goes off topic and becomes a rambling and poorly supported diatribe against godless Commies who have sinfully forsaken God to worship Mother Earth.  Somehow, the wolf issue becomes a part of God's dominion and the question becomes one of God v. Wolves  None of this serves the purpose of educating the general public about wolf reintroduction, and marginalizes the entire film.  Which is a pity, because the pro-wolf media certainly knows how to produce a mainstream friendly message.

[mulehunter]

Thanks for Post.

Mulehunter

[Cougeyes]

I would disagree with you on the credibility of the ranchers on that video.
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Sorry I wasn't implying the ranchers' numbers weren't credible.  A few times they interviewed local business owners that I thought threw out some crazy stats.  Ranchers surely know or have a really good estimate on the number of lost livestock to predators and their loss can way heavily on their livelihood.

[bearpaw]

A very fine effort by a young film maker, and a very good 45 minute documentary.  It is only marred by the fact that it is 60 minutes long. 

Very good and convincing explanation of the pressures that wolves are putting on rural communities, brings up some questions about how the process was started and funded, was the EIS process subverted, and is the endangered species status of wolves legitimate?  Also brings up how man has been part of the ecosystem ever since the Bering Straight was crossed. 

The film does falsely imply that most environmentalists believe that man is distinct from the ecosystem at large, something that has faded over the last thirty years.  For more writing by mainstream naturalists regarding the part of man in the ecosystem one could read the works of Stephen Pyne or Alston Chase.

Where the filmmaker interviews former professor Stephen Vantessel, the message goes off topic and becomes a rambling and poorly supported diatribe against godless Commies who have sinfully forsaken God to worship Mother Earth.  Somehow, the wolf issue becomes a part of God's dominion and the question becomes one of God v. Wolves  None of this serves the purpose of educating the general public about wolf reintroduction, and marginalizes the entire film.  Which is a pity, because the pro-wolf media certainly knows how to produce a mainstream friendly message.

I think it was his first big effort and considering that, I thought very well done. No doubt any filmaker inserts his "flavor" into his work. I didn't have any problem with a little religion inserted, that is also part of life here in the USA.

silverdalesauer seemed to like it for the religous aspect! 

[Alan K]

The religious talk in it brought it down a bit for me, but still good overall. Sure it's a part of life in the USA, but when you're publishing a documentary which I thought was pretty well unbiased and neutral as far as the facts go until the last quarter of it when it was obviously one sided, you can't bring faith into the discussion when you're trying to rationalize your argument with facts.  It's counterproductive to the argument. 

And yes, I'm an atheist, but have no problem with people having faith in whatever they choose to.  You've got to understand however, that decisions with respect to policy in the modern world are based overwhelmingly on SCIENCE and FACTS, which faith lacks.  Throw that in there, and while it depicts the heritage, culture, and mindset of the locals, it also undermines their credibility in the eyes of those who we're trying to convert.

Again, I thought it was good, and was promising there for the first 75% or so to be a real fact based documentary that had the potential to educate those in favor of wolves of their real world destruction and the deceit by which they were introduced.  I have already sent it to most of my family to watch, and am continuing to send links to basically everyone in my e-mail. 

Thanks for sharing the link!