tribal hunting

[lokidog]

....  Shooting an elk with a rifle out their window when the archery guys are working their butt off beatin the brush.....

They should have to use the same weapon as the general season that is open in that area simply as a SAFETY issue.  I kind of feel the same way for bear hunters as well as I have been scoped a few times by bear hunters while archery hunting.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Well had a little experience yesterday ...drove up the road to see a buddy and ended witnessing a tribal member dumping a beautiful 6x7 ... Nice bull ....so I had to ask a question ..... I ask them how many elk they can take this year ( Lummi Tribe ) they told me they have 3 tags . 2 branched antler tags and 1 spike tag ...Now I am not sure how many the upper Skagit have but they also told me they have to draw just like us .... they have a meeting and whoever shows up at the meeting can put in for the drawing...and they draw 3 names at this time ...Happened to be his 1st elk ...and for those who mock the tribes , well all I can say is if it was not for them at this time we would not be hunting elk at all in the nooksack ...they are the ones who agreed to give us a couple tags ...yeah I know all about the 80s but at least its not a free for all now .......

[hogsniper]

Your exactly right Bowhunter....They take a few for ceremonial purposes but it is not like other units where unregulated slaughter happens.   Its awesome that they have the lottery on their end also as some tribal youth end up getting to hunt up there also!   

[bobcat]

They should have to use the same weapon as the general season that is open in that area simply as a SAFETY issue.  I kind of feel the same way for bear hunters as well as I have been scoped a few times by bear hunters while archery hunting.

 
    
 
Why? Why would you say that? That's like saying there should not be a modern firearm season for anything, anywhere, anytime.
 
There are always other people in the outdoors besides us hunters.
 
So how are all these other people safe, if there are people hunting with rifles in the same general area?   
 
Your suggestion is exactly what the WDFW did with the cougar seasons, which I thought was a very unneeded restriction which greatly reduces our opportunity to successfully hunt cougars. It would be terrible if they decided to to the same thing with the bear seasons. If they did that I really might have to boycott hunting in this state as so many others have suggested doing.

[lokidog]

Unfortunately, if dumb a-holes of any race and hunter group can't regulate themselves safely, maybe it does need to be done for them.  I would like to see more self-control and self-policing though than more gov't regulations.  Until ALL groups step up and regulate themselves, people will feel there is a need for more gov't regulation.

I don't think WDFW did the cougar season thing as a safety issue or they would have included bear hunting since there are a LOT more bear hunters than cougar hunters.  But, I am not sure why they actually did this.  Somewhat off topic though.

[fair-chase]

They should have to use the same weapon as the general season that is open in that area simply as a SAFETY issue.  I kind of feel the same way for bear hunters as well as I have been scoped a few times by bear hunters while archery hunting.

 
    
 
Why? Why would you say that? That's like saying there should not be a modern firearm season for anything, anywhere, anytime.
 
There are always other people in the outdoors besides us hunters.
 
So how are all these other people safe, if there are people hunting with rifles in the same general area?   
 
Your suggestion is exactly what the WDFW did with the cougar seasons, which I thought was a very unneeded restriction which greatly reduces our opportunity to successfully hunt cougars. It would be terrible if they decided to to the same thing with the bear seasons. If they did that I really might have to boycott hunting in this state as so many others have suggested doing.

   Completly agree and well said Bobcat.

[BOWHUNTER45]

Anyone with a brain does not check out people in there scopes ...ThIS HAPPEN TO ME LAST YEAR ...I totally came unglued.... I go up the road an see a young hunter sitting above me about 300 yrds above the road checking me out threw his scope with his father sitting beside him ....Hell yeah I hiked my azz up there and seriously chewed him and his father ....Man that pi$$ed me off.....NEVER EVER CHECK OTHER HUNTERS OUT IN YOUR SCOPE .....GEEEEEEEEEEZ 

[BOWHUNTER45]

I do have a couple tribal friends and they are definately changing there ways .....like I said we may have a better chance at better hunting and fishing if we just let them regulate the show ......again we all live on this earth so no reason in fighting ...WE NEED TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND DO WHATS BEST FOR PEOPLE AND WILDLIFE .....

[vandeman17]

  if they are not "trophy hunting" then why do they need to take a 6x6. why not just a cow or a spike.
 

That is my biggest gripe! I am fine with them hunting for the meat but why they have to hunt for big bulls.... 

[liljozie495]

indians just want all these rights and *censored* to be able to walk all over us, it must be nice to be them, let alone getting monthly checks for living on a tribal area, getting all these special rights from our government... i think we need to cut them off on building there ga DANG casinos and crap. for instance...only reason muckleshoot could afford to purchase land in hancock in white river is because of there stinkin casino...aka us americans need to  stop supporting there casino haha.... but its rediculous the *censored* the indians get away with, i wish someday the justice of what they do to the land (aka trash in the woods like beer cans and crap) and the animals they get to "MURDER"comes down on there asses and comes down hard and i hope they lose every right they ever had....

[igotbigbulls]

never gonna happen liljozie495! never!

[BOWHUNTER45]

Men we are shot in the azz on this subject ... need to put some blame on our Government ... because if they gave us the same rights we would be all over it !!! am I not right ? plus they get money from the casinos and you do not want to know how much ...Lots and how do I know ? because I am doing a remodel for one and its all getting paid from casino money  but its feeding my family this winter  we cant beat them then we need to join them 

[igotbigbulls]

born and raised on the rez in a tribal household. went hunting in the blues this weekend! archery! so some of us still do it the "old fashioned way". saw lots of monster bulls. but didnt kill em all. theres lots of game out there for everybody.

[Sugwat]

indians just want all these rights and *censored* to be able to walk all over us, it must be nice to be them, let alone getting monthly checks for living on a tribal area, getting all these special rights from our government... i think we need to cut them off on building there ga DANG casinos and crap. for instance...only reason muckleshoot could afford to purchase land in hancock in white river is because of there stinkin casino...aka us americans need to  stop supporting there casino haha.... but its rediculous the *censored* the indians get away with, i wish someday the justice of what they do to the land (aka trash in the woods like beer cans and crap) and the animals they get to "MURDER"comes down on there asses and comes down hard and i hope they lose every right they ever had....

Out of the 27 federally recognized tribes in Washington only 6 of them make enough money off casinos to give anything back to the members.  Only three of those tribes get back enough to do anything with it.  And you have got to be kidding me.  Indians are the only ones to ever litter in the outdoors?  You must have never walked through a clearcut after a logging show?  All the plastic bottles, paint cans, beer cans, ruined logging gear, hydraulic fluid spilled all over and the bottles left to drain all over the place.   You must have never fished along a river that has so many sporties on it they are chitting all over the place and the state has to come in and shut down the tribes shellfish beaches from the fecal chloroform bacteria draining into it from the sporty crap piles into the river.  Gimme a break.           

[BOWHUNTER45]

unfortunitely we have bad apples in all walks of life.... So we need to find ways to live together but I am all for equal rights no matter if its indians or what .... we all should have to get a job , buy a license and pay for a car and on and on .....Thats all I want !