Poor excuse for a bow hunter

[silverdalesauer]

Simply: Losers

[SemperFidelis97]

What a bunch of white trash retards.  I always ask myself why do these guys even wear camo what the hell are the trying to blend into?  Way to go guys you must be proud you just added to the ranks of the PETA crowd by posting garbage like this, and calling it hunting.

[bentley30-06]

A bad shot is all part of learning from your past experiences and being able to limit your abilities to what your capable of.  Only you can truly judge yourself.  A terrible shot that should have never been taken..... a deer walking almost directly away from a hunter at 65 yards. I am happy to see that the deer was harvested and not lost to these idiots.  I completely understand the concept of faulty shots due to bad judgement and other elements.  But to advertise it on the internet as if your proud of a shot like that, and to let the animal suffer while he is completely coherent....  its not what the hunting community needs during this age.

[Miles]

I honestly felt bad for that deer.  Those f'ing *censored* bags are all standing around cheering as it's suffering and trying to get up.  The people that were involved in the making of this video are all peices of S H I T, and I'd tell them straight to their face if I had the opportunity.

[NWBrute]

You can't fix stupid!!! 

[h20hunter]

A perfect example of a hunting video I would never allow my son to watch.

[Atroxus]

  Retards too busy patting themselves on the back to put the animal out of it's misery. I am not naive enough to think that every game animal harvested is going to go quietly, in it's sleep dreaming about rainbows and butterflies.....but I see no reason to allow an animal to suffer any longer than absolutely necessary. I don't consider any of those people to be hunters, I think they are nothing more than "thrill killers" out for an adrenaline rush.

I flagged it for removal as well reason given "Animal abuse". Apparently some posters also forwarded the video to Utah wildlife department as well.

[npaull]

Awful, really awful. This is the kind of thing that makes non-hunters anti-hunters. Really awful.

[724wd]

alright, flame on guys... 

it's a 2 minute 50 second video.  the shot that connected was at 1:20.  at the end of the 2:50, the men were on the animal and assuming they didn't stand there and BS for half an hour, i would guess the deer was dead 2 minutes after being shot.  My first archery deer lived a hell of a lot longer than 2 minutes after i shot him too far back and he traveled almost 500 yards, laying down at least once. 

65 yards, hard quartering away, low percentage shot, agreed.  but they stuck the deer and it was immobilized, allowing them to get on it pretty quickly, i'd say, and kill it.  not a shot i would have taken, but the shooter felt confident and made an 'OK' shot.  he didn't shoot it in the @ss like his buddy wanted.  he didn't get a perfect heart/lung, but as stated, my first deer (25 yards) wasn't shot well either.  $hit happens at all ranges. 

whooping and hollering?  not how I celebrate a forked horn muley buck, but if i ever draw another big bull tag and connect, who knows what kind of celebration i'll throw. 

should they have filmed the hunt?  sure.  post it on youtube?  no.  not without some editing, at least.  would the video have been less objectionable to you if there was a sound track and you didn't see them driving down the two track first?  In my opinion they could have done without the close up of the downed deer looking into the camera.  Killing isn't my favorite part of hunting, but without the kill, you might as well just take a walk in the woods.  you can't eat the pictures. 

as for the road hunting, if you were moving to another hunting area, spotted a buck bedded down off a two-track, your buddy stood up in the back to watch him.  you piled out of your rig, missed the first shot, took a low percentage second shot that connected (maybe you got caught up in the excitement and felt some pressure to redeem yourself in front of your friends, who knows ).  you buddies whoop it up, you close in on the immobilized deer within 2 minutes.  call me crazy, but other than the low percentage shot and the overly excited celebration, i'm ok with it.  he killed his deer fairly cleanly, and pretty quickly.

 

FLAME ON!

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

 Was staring right up it's poop hole, the camera man had a bad angle and he was further to the right of the shooter.  I'm surprised I didn't hear "hold my beer, watch this".  These guys need to rifle hunt or not hunt at all and not call themselves bow hunters. 

[JimmyHoffa]

Was staring right up it's poop hole, the camera man had a bad angle and he was further to the right of the shooter.  I'm surprised I didn't hear "hold my beer, watch this".  These guys need to rifle hunt or not hunt at all and not call themselves bow hunters.

No.  That is not representative of how rifle hunters are either.  Then it would've been 25 shots before wounding it at 650 yards. 

[elkinrutdrivemenuts]

I didnt mean it represents them, just that these guys shouldn't be using a bow.  I wouldn't want to be any where near them with a rifle. 

[Atroxus]

alright, flame on guys... 


 

FLAME ON!

You asked for it....there is a difference between an animal that is wounded and you have to take the time to track it down to finish it, and an animal lying practically at your feet; wounded but obviously alive and still struggling to get away. I don't have a problem with people who celebrate their kills when they are certain the animal is indeed dead. It's another story to stand around celebrating the "kill" before the animal is dead though. If you think celebrating is more important than doing everything reasonably within your power to kill the animal as cleanly and quickly as you can, then in my opinion you should not be hunting. I can see the need for waiting before tracking a wounded animal so you don't end up with it travelling even farther and taking even longer to die. However when it became apparent the deer was alive but unable to move they should have got up close enough to finish the job instead of just standing around watching it suffer and cheering each other. And even at the end it never shows them finish the deer, for all we know they could have killed it as soon as the video stopped rolling, or they could have kept right on hooting and hollering for another half an hour waiting for it to bleed out.

[724wd]

You asked for it....there is a difference between an animal that is wounded and you have to take the time to track it down to finish it, and an animal lying practically at your feet; wounded but obviously alive and still struggling to get away. I don't have a problem with people who celebrate their kills when they are certain the animal is indeed dead. It's another story to stand around celebrating the "kill" before the animal is dead though. If you think celebrating is more important than doing everything reasonably within your power to kill the animal as cleanly and quickly as you can, then in my opinion you should not be hunting. I can see the need for waiting before tracking a wounded animal so you don't end up with it travelling even farther and taking even longer to die. However when it became apparent the deer was alive but unable to move they should have got up close enough to finish the job instead of just standing around watching it suffer and cheering each other. And even at the end it never shows them finish the deer, for all we know they could have killed it as soon as the video stopped rolling, or they could have kept right on hooting and hollering for another half an hour waiting for it to bleed out.

you're right, we don't know how long it took them to kill the deer, same as we don't know just who was doing the majority of the celebrating.  but they were on top of the deer within 1 minute 30 seconds, which doesn't seem too bad to me.  figure walking 65 yards on flat ground will take a young adult 40 seconds (5 feet per second, 195 feet), add in sage and uphill walk, stopping once and drawing the bow trying for a finishing shot before the deer moved behind some sage, making the shot impossible.   90 seconds.  all told, that's not very long.

[Stilly bay]

alright, flame on guys... 

it's a 2 minute 50 second video.  the shot that connected was at 1:20.  at the end of the 2:50, the men were on the animal and assuming they didn't stand there and BS for half an hour, i would guess the deer was dead 2 minutes after being shot.  My first archery deer lived a hell of a lot longer than 2 minutes after i shot him too far back and he traveled almost 500 yards, laying down at least once. 

65 yards, hard quartering away, low percentage shot, agreed.  but they stuck the deer and it was immobilized, allowing them to get on it pretty quickly, i'd say, and kill it.  not a shot i would have taken, but the shooter felt confident and made an 'OK' shot.  he didn't shoot it in the @ss like his buddy wanted.  he didn't get a perfect heart/lung, but as stated, my first deer (25 yards) wasn't shot well either.  $hit happens at all ranges. 

whooping and hollering?  not how I celebrate a forked horn muley buck, but if i ever draw another big bull tag and connect, who knows what kind of celebration i'll throw. 

should they have filmed the hunt?  sure.  post it on youtube?  no.  not without some editing, at least.  would the video have been less objectionable to you if there was a sound track and you didn't see them driving down the two track first?  In my opinion they could have done without the close up of the downed deer looking into the camera.  Killing isn't my favorite part of hunting, but without the kill, you might as well just take a walk in the woods.  you can't eat the pictures. 

as for the road hunting, if you were moving to another hunting area, spotted a buck bedded down off a two-track, your buddy stood up in the back to watch him.  you piled out of your rig, missed the first shot, took a low percentage second shot that connected (maybe you got caught up in the excitement and felt some pressure to redeem yourself in front of your friends, who knows ).  you buddies whoop it up, you close in on the immobilized deer within 2 minutes.  call me crazy, but other than the low percentage shot and the overly excited celebration, i'm ok with it.  he killed his deer fairly cleanly, and pretty quickly.

 

FLAME ON!

although I feel a bit dirty saying this... after some thought I agree with most of the above statement.

how often does this happen in camps comprised mainly of younger guys? I would say way more than anyone would like to believe. and how many of those young men with blood in their eye move on to be respectful hunters who's stomachs would turn just from watching a video like this?

any time we video a hunt we make ourselves and our sport vulnerable to the perception of others. rarely can a non hunter see that we respect or disrespect an animal, they only see the death. sometimes the death is quick and clean and sometimes its long and hard.  humans invented quick and clean, the animals are used to long, hard, slow deaths  at the hands of starvation or coyotes.
   
 Many times other hunters ( in this situation) can't see every thing that went down while this was filmed, so we were left to our own perceptions. when i watched this last night I wanted to hang my arrows up for good and was disgusted at the whooping and hollering and the suffering. but how many times have I disguised my own soft emotions after a kill as laughter for the sake of my company and manliness?
 
there is a much bigger picture than what was on youtube, and wether its right or wrong it sure as hell shouldn't have been put up for the whole world to judge.