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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 08:15:21 AM »
Don't flame me too hard, you guys know how I feel about wolves, and I too hunt over dogs.

I think it is good that these events stay off msm as chasing bears or cats can be viewed as pretty cruel by softies. It only opens the door to get hounds outlawed imo. We all know the risk when we go after predators, they make their living killing stuff. We need to respect their power and make our best efforts to keep the population of the wolf under control.

That said, it saddens me deeply to think about those hounds doing what they know and getting killed for it. The one thing that I am oddly happy to see is that they ate the hound instead of just killing it as so often seen with elk. I know that will not be understood by all. I still can't believe people thought this was a good idea......import of Canada's wolves.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2011, 08:18:54 AM »
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That said, it saddens me deeply to think about those hounds doing what they know and getting killed for it. The one thing that I am oddly happy to see is that they ate the hound instead of just killing it as so often seen with elk. I know that will not be understood by all. I still can't believe people thought this was a good idea......import of Canada's wolves.

i noticed that too,... but it makes me think,..  why are wolves targeting dogs as food?

i can understand killing the dogs like they do coyotes,...   but for food?  make yout hink that maybe the wolves are lacking elk/deer for food,.. or just found an easier source of food and will do this kind of killing for often??   :dunno:

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2011, 08:33:46 AM »
My guess is it was either easy opportunity or to show their dominance. The fact that they ate the dogs leads me to side with easy opportunity. As I said it would be harder for me to see the dogs killed just because they were there, as opposed to possible food. Killing 3 hounds shows how truly dangerous these wolves are. Hounds are tough critters, and I am sure put up a Hell of a fight.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2011, 09:00:31 AM »
My son and his hounds have been flanked by wolves many times in Idaho while out on foot, especially walking out after dark. Just last February he had wolves flanking him in broad daylight when he was hiking and looking for cougar tracks in the Sawtooth. I am pretty certain that dominance over other canines is the primary draw, if the wolves happen to be hungry when they make the kill, then they eat them too, otherwise they just kill and leave them.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2011, 10:25:18 AM »
it isnt hard to figure out fellas wolves adapt to their surroundings and scientists know this, it doesnt take a damn genius to figure it out especially when they imported the much bigger more dominant wolf, elk and deer are harder to take down for wolves . SO they adapt to what comes easiest, dogs, farm animals, and i promise you this it wont take long and they will target humans especially the younger ones or females, and to those who say that wolves are doing what wolves do when it comes to killing hounds, those of us that have or have had dogs understood the risk when it came to bear and cougar and even a coon or a bobcat on occasion that they could be injured or killed. but at that time we DIDNT  have to worry about wolves cause they werent here, some *censored* decided it would be a good idea to re-introduce them, so you tell me how thats the hounds or the houndsmans fault when there is a predator of the worst kind put back into the mix.. i think they should be compinsated for their losses, and i hope that the people that decided to put these absolute killing machines back into the u.s wake the hell up and get rid of this problem, it isnt gonna be long until these wilves are runnin through towns because of either a bad winter and they are forced to or worse they overpopulate so bad that they are forced to into suburban areas, dont want to sound like a bible thumper here but there was a good reason the good lord made these wolves disapear from the lower 48
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2011, 10:37:02 AM »
What a bad deal. 
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2011, 12:00:36 PM »
I cant stop thinking about our bad experience with on Matt permit and those Blue and Bonnie being dead by Lookout pack and 4 other did escaped many hours later, all difference direction. Look like wolves spread chase them bad finally four dogs got away. Later wolves return ate whole Bonnie all left is collar to find.  Bonnie is one of best cold nose dog. Blue died last Spring with bad wound head 2 half years long downhill treatment every week to keep him alive but died danm it.  He is one of best hound.  Its hard to decide if u feel safe in wood to release hounds.  Have to be most fresh cut make it short chase.  If Cut are more than 18-24 hrs old.  I dump our hounds on 24 hrs old   thats explains why Boonie and Blue killed.  Never again.  I learn our lesson.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2011, 03:22:28 PM »
WTH !!! O.k So it is o.k for the wolf to chase the deer & elk and chew them all to pieces and eat them BUT Its not O.K for hounds to chase bear and cougar so I can kill them and eat them ...Why in the heck are we letting these dumbflucks keep telling us what to do ? I guess it will be open season on wolfs year round real soon  >:( :yeah:

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2011, 03:27:02 PM »
WTH !!! O.k So it is o.k for the wolf to chase the deer & elk and chew them all to pieces and eat them BUT Its not O.K for hounds to chase bear and cougar so I can kill them and eat them ...Why in the heck are we letting these dumbflucks keep telling us what to do ? I guess it will be open season on wolfs year round real soon  >:( :yeah:
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 03:31:02 PM »
I guess I'd ask, why didn't you shoot the wolves insteady of scareing them off cause you had the right reason to do so.  Sorry about your loss. 

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2011, 03:48:33 PM »
Here's a thought, just a thought mind you but consider this.   We all know that other animals like waterfowl can be called with electronic callers and other predators also.  Bear, cougar, coyotes, bobcats, all can be called.  Seems to me it would only take a little effort to record a pack of hounds and use this as a call to attract wolves.  Seems a group of guys, all with proper licenses of course could do some big time catch up on a pack of dog killers.  Could get quite sporty too.   Everyone in the group in a tight circle, shotguns all pointed out with defined kill zones. 

Seems like a target rich environment to me.  Say #4 buck or dead coyote heavyshot.  Man I surprise myself sometimes.  Go get 'em guys.  Tear 'em up.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2011, 11:28:04 AM »
I'm up for taking Michael Vick's dogs out in the woods and seeing how the pitbulls would handle some wolves :twocents:
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2011, 12:06:30 PM »
Here's a thought, just a thought mind you but consider this.   We all know that other animals like waterfowl can be called with electronic callers and other predators also.  Bear, cougar, coyotes, bobcats, all can be called.  Seems to me it would only take a little effort to record a pack of hounds and use this as a call to attract wolves.  Seems a group of guys, all with proper licenses of course could do some big time catch up on a pack of dog killers.  Could get quite sporty too.   Everyone in the group in a tight circle, shotguns all pointed out with defined kill zones. 

Seems like a target rich environment to me.  Say #4 buck or dead coyote heavyshot.  Man I surprise myself sometimes.  Go get 'em guys.  Tear 'em up.
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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2011, 09:38:45 PM »
Wenatcheejay would you mind editing your quote in my post. Thanks.

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Re: More Hounds Killed By Wolves
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2011, 09:58:32 PM »
I'm up for taking Michael Vick's dogs out in the woods and seeing how the pitbulls would handle some wolves :twocents:
hahaha that's hilarious but I don't think they stand a chance. Justine will be served for all animals lost due to the wolves. sucks that its coming to this over something that should have never happened. sorry for his loss

 


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