More Hounds Killed By Wolves

[carver52]

Permission granted Jackmaster.  Welcome to the fleet.

I think I really do need to do some varmint calling around the NE.  Would be a good field test for my shotgun addon. 

[butcher98951]

I deeplyfill for this man and his family as we are to houndsman and we lost one of our hounds last year to natural death though and it still hurt and upset my wife and kids.... Sorry for your lose..

[Condor58]

Does anyone know if the Fish and Game looked at the dogs?  I enlarged the pictures and was surprised to see no blood on the ground or pieces of flesh and the plants around the body (small plants by the way) of the dog he claims was killed and practically consumed in 15 - 20 minutes were not trampled down like I would have expected if a pack of wolves had been ripping the dogs apart.  And, no defensve wounds around the dogs heads or blood.  There should be blood and pieces of hair and flesh around an animal that was torn up by wolves.   

How does a pack of wolves kill two dogs, fatally injure another, eat most of one and start eating the other in 15 - 20 minutes?  I can assure you they dogs would have put up a fight.  Something doesn't sound right with this story.  If wolves did this, the dogs were there a lot longer than 15 - 20 minutes.

I don't feel bad for the owner, because he was a fool and should have been thinking ahead.  How to protect his dogs.  I feel bad for the dogs.  We humans are amazing aren't we, we put animals we love in harms way and then point the finger at everything but ourselves when they get killed.  How many dogs get killed every year because guys run them after bears and wild hogs?  Plenty get killed by the bears and hogs but yuo don't hear about it becasue that was the animal that was targeted and the guys running the dogs don't want the publicity.

[high country]

About .0002% as many as get ran over by crappy city dwelling owners who feel they must own animals and not offer them the area to run.

[Maximus4252626]

If I see a wolf or cougar it is getting shot. Tag or no tag, I'm not going to screw around with getting flanked or jumped from behind. The game department needs to get their heads out of their asses and stop planting wolves in WA or any other state. They might look beatiful, but they are clearly a problem (like cougars) and dangerous. All the tree huggers in Bellevue are happy now, but watch what happens when the first Microsoft yuppie gets his dog, cat, or kid chewed on by a wolf pack when they migrate down to cougar mtn (Issaquah). Just like the cougars did. It will be intresting to see what happens in 20 years when the wolf population is out of control like it is on Colorado and the ranchers are shooting them illegally and claiming they are protecting their livelihood and livestock.

[Huntboy]

Stuff like this is a crying shame.

[jackmaster]

condor58, really dude your a CSI now, i have seen plenty of s#$t in my life but a messy pack of anything, surely not dogs of any kind are very clean when they kill and eat, as far as defensive wounds, get real dude the dogs are consumed is that defensive enough for you, i would bet that if you had a pack of wolves jump you you wouldnt have time to inherit any defensive wounds, they are killing machines, wolves are some of the smartest hunters known to man, i for one cant think of any other animal that walks this fine earth that could have done the damage that was done to those hounds, and as far as runnin bear and cougar it is a chance we hound hunters take and so do the hounds, but had wolves never been re-introduced we wouldnt have a problem such as this, i dont know what kind of huntn you do but you might want to thank a hound hunter because the chances are he killed the cougar that would have killed the deer or elk that you tagged, or if you a washingtonian then in a few years you wont have to worry about finding a deer or elk to shoot because the population of wolves and cougar will have wiped a good portion of them out..

[WAcoyotehunter]

I don't feel bad for the owner, because he was a fool and should have been thinking ahead.  How to protect his dogs.  I feel bad for the dogs.  We humans are amazing aren't we, we put animals we love in harms way and then point the finger at everything but ourselves when they get killed.  How many dogs get killed every year because guys run them after bears and wild hogs?  Plenty get killed by the bears and hogs but yuo don't hear about it becasue that was the animal that was targeted and the guys running the dogs don't want the publicity.

I'll keep that in mind when the WDFW calls me to come take care of a cougar after it slips into your suburban utopia and eats your pug. 
 
"Um- it looks as though this pug didn't fight back becasue there isn't adequate blood splattering on the side of the suburu he was hiding under when this lion snatched him up. Sorry, that's nature."
 
Give me a break- go back to the HSUS forum. 
 
Wolves VS. Dogs is not a fight, it's more like a purse snatching.

[Shed Stud]

Condor should fly away, anti's just make my skin crawl

[Rooster1981]

Does anyone know if the Fish and Game looked at the dogs?  I enlarged the pictures and was surprised to see no blood on the ground or pieces of flesh and the plants around the body (small plants by the way) of the dog he claims was killed and practically consumed in 15 - 20 minutes were not trampled down like I would have expected if a pack of wolves had been ripping the dogs apart.  And, no defensve wounds around the dogs heads or blood.  There should be blood and pieces of hair and flesh around an animal that was torn up by wolves.   

How does a pack of wolves kill two dogs, fatally injure another, eat most of one and start eating the other in 15 - 20 minutes?  I can assure you they dogs would have put up a fight.  Something doesn't sound right with this story.  If wolves did this, the dogs were there a lot longer than 15 - 20 minutes.

I don't feel bad for the owner, because he was a fool and should have been thinking ahead.  How to protect his dogs.  I feel bad for the dogs.  We humans are amazing aren't we, we put animals we love in harms way and then point the finger at everything but ourselves when they get killed.  How many dogs get killed every year because guys run them after bears and wild hogs?  Plenty get killed by the bears and hogs but yuo don't hear about it becasue that was the animal that was targeted and the guys running the dogs don't want the publicity.

Thanks Bearpaw for shutting this cull up,
  There are alot of haters and alot of normal people that just dont have any clue what the real world is or how it functions. We as hunmans destroyed the natural habitat for all wild animals in this country along time ago. So now we are tasked with the conservation of many species of animals, and to be blunt controling the animals means harvesting them so they dont go out of control like the wolves did in many western strates. Hounds get killed by wolves, not too surprissing when you think about it. But to prevent wolves from detroying the most ethical and humane way to Identify a preditor, catch a preditor, and harvest preditors like lion and bear wolves will need to be in check just like everything else in the ecosystem.

[pianoman9701]

Does anyone know if the Fish and Game looked at the dogs?  I enlarged the pictures and was surprised to see no blood on the ground or pieces of flesh and the plants around the body (small plants by the way) of the dog he claims was killed and practically consumed in 15 - 20 minutes were not trampled down like I would have expected if a pack of wolves had been ripping the dogs apart.  And, no defensve wounds around the dogs heads or blood.  There should be blood and pieces of hair and flesh around an animal that was torn up by wolves.   

How does a pack of wolves kill two dogs, fatally injure another, eat most of one and start eating the other in 15 - 20 minutes?  I can assure you they dogs would have put up a fight.  Something doesn't sound right with this story.  If wolves did this, the dogs were there a lot longer than 15 - 20 minutes.

I don't feel bad for the owner, because he was a fool and should have been thinking ahead.  How to protect his dogs.  I feel bad for the dogs.  We humans are amazing aren't we, we put animals we love in harms way and then point the finger at everything but ourselves when they get killed.  How many dogs get killed every year because guys run them after bears and wild hogs?  Plenty get killed by the bears and hogs but yuo don't hear about it becasue that was the animal that was targeted and the guys running the dogs don't want the publicity.

Your ignorance of the wild shines like a beacon. You've apparently never seen a pack of wolves taking down an elk in Yellowstone. In 15-20 minutes they can eat about half the animal. But since you're concerned only for the wolves and none of the other animals, it's probably not in your best interest to find this out for yourself.

There's no boar hunting in WA and bear hunting with hounds is illegal, so this is another place where you could use a little actual knowledge. But if the truth isn't what you're after, and it's clear it isn't, you won't bother to find these things out. Go back to your PETA friends where what you say will be accepted no matter the content.

[Elkaholic daWg]

Does anyone know if the Fish and Game looked at the dogs?  I enlarged the pictures and was surprised to see no blood on the ground or pieces of flesh and the plants around the body (small plants by the way) of the dog he claims was killed and practically consumed in 15 - 20 minutes were not trampled down like I would have expected if a pack of wolves had been ripping the dogs apart.  And, no defensve wounds around the dogs heads or blood.  There should be blood and pieces of hair and flesh around an animal that was torn up by wolves.   

How does a pack of wolves kill two dogs, fatally injure another, eat most of one and start eating the other in 15 - 20 minutes?  I can assure you they dogs would have put up a fight.  Something doesn't sound right with this story.  If wolves did this, the dogs were there a lot longer than 15 - 20 minutes.

I don't feel bad for the owner, because he was a fool and should have been thinking ahead.  How to protect his dogs.  I feel bad for the dogs.  We humans are amazing aren't we, we put animals we love in harms way and then point the finger at everything but ourselves when they get killed.  How many dogs get killed every year because guys run them after bears and wild hogs?  Plenty get killed by the bears and hogs but yuo don't hear about it becasue that was the animal that was targeted and the guys running the dogs don't want the publicity.

 Trolls are usually smarter than this, trying to fool us but this one is flaming!

[twistiron]

Condor, you ever owned a hound,  its clear you have never hunted with one.  Although I no longer hunt with them (stupid tree huggers) I have spent many hours trailing and caring for them as one of my family for you to stir the coals of a sensitive subject on a morning forum is BS. I would attribute this to laughing at a mothers funeral clearly a time when one should shut their mouth and leave. If you have a question about how wolves attack,  kill and eat I highly encourage you to do some research come back and start a new thread to debate wolf attack validation.
 Although I feel you lack the prior knowledge to understand this I am going to give it my best shot. hounds are sweet loving gentile dogs who seldom have a mean
bone much less a fighting streak. They would not stand a chance to a lone wolfnever mind a handful of them. Please take the time to look at the facts and then come back and start a new thread and we will all be happy to debate till you to you buy a wolf tag until then I hope your dog is happy in its kennel where its is safe.

[jackmaster]

i have noticed that mr condor58 *censored* hasnt came back to debate squat, it just goes to show that he is a tree huger that just likes to get under the peoples skin that actually do care about wildlife THE SPORTSMAN......

[bearpaw]

i have noticed that mr condor58 *censored* hasnt came back to debate squat, it just goes to show that he is a tree huger that just likes to get under the peoples skin that actually do care about wildlife THE SPORTSMAN......

He was banned.....