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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2011, 01:33:28 PM »
I had issues with poachers driving in to spotlight on an area I managed that was closed to motorized entry.  I hired a guy with a backhoe to put the biggest rocks he could handle in the middle of the fencebreak where they would drive into the fields.  Unfortunately, the grass was so tall, the rocks couldn't be seen - just the closure signs on either side.  It gave me a great feeling to visit a few days later and see pieces of grill and lens decorating the tall grass at the end of two abruptly ending tire tracks.  I hope they spilled their beer all over themselves.   :)
 
I also enjoyed replacing torn off plastic signs, with new signs backed with heavy industrial grease, that really sticky red stuff that is tough to get off, holds every bit of dirt and debris it contacts, and stains whatever it touches.   :)
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2011, 01:46:04 PM »
I had issues with poachers driving in to spotlight on an area I managed that was closed to motorized entry.  I hired a guy with a backhoe to put the biggest rocks he could handle in the middle of the fencebreak where they would drive into the fields.  Unfortunately, the grass was so tall, the rocks couldn't be seen - just the closure signs on either side.  It gave me a great feeling to visit a few days later and see pieces of grill and lens decorating the tall grass at the end of two abruptly ending tire tracks.  I hope they spilled their beer all over themselves.   :)
 
I also enjoyed replacing torn off plastic signs, with new signs backed with heavy industrial grease, that really sticky red stuff that is tough to get off, holds every bit of dirt and debris it contacts, and stains whatever it touches.   :)



I like it. I like it a lot.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2011, 01:46:26 PM »
I really like your approach :tup:
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2011, 01:50:36 PM »
When you see them in there with vehicles, and windows down, it is always advisable to say that you saw the game warden or security or sheriff in the last hour that was looking for motorized vehicle tresspassers due to previous reports.  The look on their face will either change or they will tell you about the key and permission they have.  When the look on their face changes, they usually turn around and head back for the gate.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2011, 02:04:00 PM »
When you see them in there with vehicles, and windows down, it is always advisable to say that you saw the game warden or security or sheriff in the last hour that was looking for motorized vehicle tresspassers due to previous reports.  The look on their face will either change or they will tell you about the key and permission they have.  When the look on their face changes, they usually turn around and head back for the gate.

One day about 5 years ago, they wrote almost 1500.00 worth of trespass tickets behind the 500 gate on Weyerhauser....  we laughed at one guy... he went bombing by us as we walked in...   sheriff was sitting at the bottom of the hill already writing a ticket.. just waved him over too....  we walked by his truck chuckling...
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2011, 12:55:36 PM »
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2011, 09:23:14 PM »
Love this subject, it get spicy.    *censored*s vs law abiding sportsmen.  Talked to 4 different ML hunters this weekend alone and everyone of them has had an encounter with an *censored* riding behind gates and off the authorized trails.  It's the never ending story.   



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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2011, 01:03:43 AM »
I must be a weirdo, but I've had the opposite experience so far in WA. It seems like I run into road closures and blocked or gated roads where the maps and rangers say they continue on. I'm still new to the area though. I like to hike, so it's not a big deal.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2011, 01:58:22 AM »
Why is it that every time I walk or ride my bike into an area, I end up running into quads/motorcyles/trucks? Anyone else been having this problem? Specifically I am talking about areas around Shelton, mainly Green Diamond and Port Blakely. The 800 mainline has had the gate open on some days, even if its closed both Kelly road and cougarsmith are open, but it says right on the gate its closed to motorized access, I imagine they are waiting until rifle deer to open it, as they have done in the past. Everyone I've talked to wants to just play dumb and say they didn't know. Last night the gate to the 800 line was closed, I still ran into some young kids in a Toyota, riding in the passenger seat was a kid I talked to 2 nights before... who said the gate was open and he didn't know he wasn't allowed back there. BS.

I know I sound like a whiney girl but I always follow the rules and do things the hard way, only to still get pissed on by other dip*censored*s who don't care.

Take a look at the 4-wheeler thread and you will quickly understand that ATV owners feel they are not getting a fair shake.  They want you to just leave them alone and look the other way while they break the law.  Norspeak even recommends going and hunting one of the wilderness areas so the ATV owners can "hunt" illegally without the risk of being turned in.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2011, 05:01:37 AM »
There is a cop in the Nile that thinks his *censored* dosent stink, and rides his quad up the hills he made trails in the past years. Archery season, and the guy hit a bull calf one year. When someone said something to him, he took off the next night.(made the junkie move, in less than 30min.) Then another year he had another out of state hunter kill a bear so he could tag it. The out of stater felt pitty on the bear cause it was a cub that had been mauled by a boar. Out of stater said he needs to be put down, so the cop says he wont shoot it, but would tag it. The out of stater got within 20yards(cause it was almost dead), and drilled it for the cop. Its not just citizens, its others doing wrong as well, when they think they are not being watched!
 If my 63yr disabled father can walk(slowly), to get to our spot, so can he!
This trail he made, off road, is the main trail for a heard that goes to a bedding area 60yards away! This was established from the elk first for over 20 years, now its a quad trail, that shouldnt be there.
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2011, 10:11:41 AM »
I would advise getting a bag of nails from the hardware store and carrying them with you.  It all of a sudden becomes fun when you hear one coming. 
I'm always looking for ways to make a bad situation better.   :chuckle:

Believe me I'm always trying to think of ways to give them a couple flat tires. Problem is someone who is doing it the right way and walking in could get hurt, or one of the timber company employees could get a flat... not worth getting back at the quad and motorcycle guys at the risk of others.
« Last Edit: October 03, 2011, 04:34:58 PM by sirmissalot »

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2011, 12:39:04 PM »
I would advise getting a bag of nails from the hardware store and carrying them with you.  It all of a sudden becomes fun when you hear one coming. 
I'm always looking for ways to make a bad situation better.   :chuckle:

Believe me I'm always trying to think of ways to give them a couple flat tires. Problem is someone who is doing it the right way and walking in could get hurt, or one of the timber company employees could get a flat... not worth getting back at the quad and motorcycle guys at the risk of others. I have however stuffed pop cans full of nails and put them in the trails around the gates left by the cheaters, not sure if it has worked but the cans always end up getting crushed  :IBCOOL:

Ya, vigilante justice, cool. I am sure that H-W fully supports it. Hey, how about stringing a wire at neck level, that would be real cool.  :bdid:

Throwing out nails on a road cause it has a locked gate, ever think LE might use it? You could be letting the Bad Guys you hate so much get away. Or, if someone is hurt ever think that EMS might need it to save a life. Naw, who cares they deserve it. How about Fire Fighters, if there is a fire and you drop nails you might trap them. That pisses me off even more! You guys are far bigger jerks than they are.

If you can't just report it then shut up. Join "Eyes In The Woods" and learn what you can do so YOU do not end up having your own record, might be worth a thought. That is unless you get off being I T toughguys, in that case, continue.
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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2011, 01:12:37 PM »
take pictures vehicle and tabs. yes atvs have them too. then be ready to testify. people on quads that refuse to obey the rules are the worst. I use atvs in legal areas to get around, much more economical than a truck. can be a great tool if used right. there are people on here that post pictures of elk dragged off the mountain with atv's. where there weren't any roads. le officers will be contacting them shortly

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »
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there are people on here that post pictures of elk dragged off the mountain with atv's. where there weren't any roads. le officers will be contacting them shortly

Apparently on National Forest land, that is legal. At least according to norsepeak (member on this site). You cannot ride an ATV on the roads but cross country is just fine.

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Re: Frustrated
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 01:23:32 PM »
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there are people on here that post pictures of elk dragged off the mountain with atv's. where there weren't any roads. le officers will be contacting them shortly

Apparently on National Forest land, that is legal. At least according to norsepeak (member on this site). You cannot ride an ATV on the roads but cross country is just fine.
no it nots legal in any of the 50 states. can you drive your truck anywhere you want to and not get a ticket. tne first ranger that catches you will have alot of fun. was told by one at evans creek atv area that the impound for that. then to get it back you have to pay a very large fine.

 


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