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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2011, 05:46:28 PM »
When you say "everything is tight", have you messed with the action screws? Rifles with poor bedding  an be very sensitive to screw tension.

This sounds like a bedding issue to me, bed the action and try again.
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2011, 06:49:42 PM »
When you say "everything is tight", have you messed with the action screws? Rifles with poor bedding  an be very sensitive to screw tension.

This sounds like a bedding issue to me, bed the action and try again.

 :yeah: When rifles string a shot group, it's a bedding issue.  This close to hunting season just make sure the barrel is not touching the stock, and sight it in to kill shot accuracy.  After hunting season, invest in a bedding job.
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2011, 07:03:42 PM »
Yeah I have thoughtt it might be something to do with the bedding. The barrel is fre flated so that shouldnt be the issue. The first shot always goes where it needs to and I've killed deer with it before so it shouldn't be a problem, I'm just looking for something better. How much does a bed job run usually? I don't really want to mess with it myself.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2011, 07:43:08 PM »
Ok... barrels flex as the bullet goes down the barrel.  If it is not floated equally or enough down the entire barrel channel, when it heats up, it is riding on one side or the other or on the bottom.  I bet if you went and shot it 4 or 5 times all at once, then tried to slide a business card down between barrel and stock, it would be tight in one spot.  Bed that action.. re-channel the forend..and make sure it gets acra gelled too. 

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2011, 08:01:05 PM »
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Watch this video, barrels vibrate as the bullets goes down them. I have a winchester .300 winmag with the boss system on it, deadly accurate, it is more accurate than I can hold it.

Browning has the patent on the system now, some how they got it from winchester, but they have also added slip on boss systems that can be used on almost all guns now. :whoo:
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2011, 08:04:09 PM »
I am going to try some different loads, I would like to stay with a bonded bullet or try something like a Barnes tipped triple shock, just i case i decide to go elk hunting with it again.

Have you tried nosler partions?
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2011, 08:12:40 PM »
I am going to try some different loads, I would like to stay with a bonded bullet or try something like a Barnes tipped triple shock, just i case i decide to go elk hunting with it again.

Have you tried nosler partions?
No, I like the looks of them and i know its a great bullet, but i would like a bullet that has better B.C. (maybe it doesn't make as much difference as i think i dont know)

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2011, 08:27:42 PM »
Loosen the action screws till they are loose enough to wiggle the stock. Snug the front screw a bit, tap the rifle on its butt a few times and tighten the front screw up tight. Now tighten the rear screw till it is snug.....but not tight. It is very possible to bind an action and cause all kinds of trouble.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2011, 08:29:33 PM »
I am going to try some different loads, I would like to stay with a bonded bullet or try something like a Barnes tipped triple shock, just i case i decide to go elk hunting with it again.
i love them, thats all I shoot!

Have you tried nosler partions?
No, I like the looks of them and i know its a great bullet, but i would like a bullet that has better B.C. (maybe it doesn't make as much difference as i think i dont know)
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2011, 08:36:23 PM »
High bc is always good.....but accuracy trumps all.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2011, 08:37:41 PM »
I haven't actually moved the screws ever. I just checked them last year but they seemed tight, and i didn't want to torque them too much.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2011, 08:11:01 AM »
I have the same rifle, also in 270 Win, and I haven't had an issue like you are describing. Before anything else, I would at least try a different load and see if it does the same thing. I always had good luck with Winchester Power Points- I used to get them from Wal Mart for $11.99/box but I think they're now around $20/box. Although I am sure you can get them for a little less on sale.

Cheap Winchester PP's were my solution as well.  Forgoe the expensive stuff and buy a cheap box of the Winchesters.  Mine shoots the 130gr very very good.......less than MOA.  Federals, Hornadys, and Remington's all shot about 2-4" at 100 yards.  The Winchester PP's are $17.99 a box at my local WalMart.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2011, 08:22:28 AM »
All Browning centerfire rifles come free floated and bedded from the factory.  That being said, if there is a problem with the bedding of the action to the stock, Browning will fix it for free.  Just some food for thought before doing it yourself or paying a gunsmith to fix it. :dunno:

I had a bad feeding problem with my .243WSSM.  I sent it back to Browning and they milled a feeding ramp into the chamber for me.  Fixed the problem 100% and couldn't have been happier with their Customer Service.
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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2011, 06:53:12 PM »
I know this is older, but for what it is worth I have a stainless stalker.  From my experience the rifle will only shoot dirty.  After I clean it I don't put much though in to the first three or four shots.  Mine is a .308 and I got some of the cheap Federal blue box 150grs just for shooting but they will go .5-.75'' 3 shots.  Just got lucky I guess, but I give it plenty of time to cool between groups.  After that I leave it dirty for the season.  This is not an insult, but I have seen people at the range place the barrel on the rest and that can cause vertical stringing.

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Re: A-Bolt group troubles... Need input
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2011, 09:41:12 PM »
I only suggested the Power Points because they are cheap and in my experience, as accurate or more accurate than anything else. Just shoot up the whole box then you won't have any left for hunting.

work great in my 7MM  :tup:

 


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