When it comes down to it Vail is no worse then anywhere else I've hunted with a high density of hunter's. I've met some of the worst character's up in Hancock, even worse than Vail, absolutely brain-dead. Anywhere you get a lot of people it's bound to happen. Snoqualmie Tree Farm -same number of weirdo's, tweaker's, etc.. That's why I've always' predominantly hiked or biked in to less accessible area's. You can hike in all around the perimeter of Vail and do just fine.