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have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« on: October 13, 2011, 11:48:33 PM »
I am feeling like a kid on Christmas eve, and I started going though my pack making sure I have everything. I bought some gloves today so I decided to run a few snap caps through to see how the trigger pull and cycling was. I noticed that when I was aiming that my muzzle seemed to be pointing a little lower than what my scope was saying I was aimed at. I had my firearm sighted in at 200 yards and now it seems that my scope is 2 inches Higher. so my first question is, is this normal to be high when aimed at something only a muzzle length away, when sighted in at 200 yards? If this is not normal (which I have a feeling it is not) If I have my gun bore sighted again how will my aim be at 100, 200, 300 yards? Will a bore sighted weapon be useable?  Keep in mind I do not have the ability to run to the range tomorrow to sight in again, so Heading into the woods with a bore sighted weapon would be my best bet.I am asking because my wife just informed me that she has bumped my firearm a few times pretty hard.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 11:57:31 PM »
You might as well stay home if your rifle is just bore sighted..Find a way to verify the sighting of your rifle or just plan on not being able to hit anything.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 11:57:39 PM »
You have to shoot it a few times.  Don't chance 350 days of waiting and possibly a shot of a lifetime to chance.  Go on your lunch hour if necessary, or (cough cough) maybe you're too sick to work?  Flat tire on your way in?  Dog ate your keys?  Or just fess up to your boss and hope for some compassion (hope he/she isn't a tree hugger). 
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 12:01:14 AM »
You might as well stay home if your rifle is just bore sighted..Find a way to verify the sighting of your rifle or just plan on not being able to hit anything.

 :yeah:
I had Cabelas level and bore site my daughter's rifle and it was 3 feet to the left and 5 feet low at 50 yards.  A bore sighted only rifle is as usless to hunt with as a broom stick.  You have to shoot it to get it right, there is no way around it.  Oh, and keep your wife away from your guns!!  :chuckle:

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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 12:07:33 AM »
I agree with what was already said....
Although, I was curious and sighted down the bore of my rifle at a distance of about 3' and my crosshairs were high about a quarter the length of the vertical "hair"
I'd keep the wife far away from your rifle.  :chuckle:

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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 12:35:17 AM »
make time for the range or maybe you have a back up?  No sense in taking a chance on wounding an animal.

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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 01:04:06 AM »
Yeah, that's perfectly normal that your scope looks high compared to your muzzle if your only looking feet away, it doesn't matter where your scope is sighted in at, it will always sit the same on the gun, when you sight in a gun you don't adjust the scope itself, just the crosshairs inside.  Also I would start sighting in at a 100 yards from now on, just check your ammo ballistics chart and find out where you want to be out to 200 300+ yards and sight it in where it tells you to be at 100 yardsto achieve that mark, you can hole better at 100 then 200 and really get it dialed in, I know some people that start at 50 then move up.  Anyways, don't be alarmed if your only visually looking down your muzzle and scope a few feet away and they don't look right on.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 05:02:28 AM »
If you can't shoot today. Than you need to skip the morning hunt. Not at all ethical to go out with a weapon you don't know for sure where it is hitting. Thousands will do it tomorrow, but it ain't right!!


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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 05:31:24 AM »
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 05:36:11 AM »
Yeah, that's perfectly normal that your scope looks high compared to your muzzle if your only looking feet away, it doesn't matter where your scope is sighted in at, it will always sit the same on the gun, when you sight in a gun you don't adjust the scope itself, just the crosshairs inside. 

 :yeah:

Your crosshairs will line up  differently 2' away from the muzzle from where they would line up 200 yards away. When is the last time you fired the rifle at a target 100 or 200 yards away? Bullets don't fly laser line straight from the rifle to the target.
You just plain can not hunt with a rifle that is only bore sighted. The last bore sight job I had done was about 10" left and a foot and a half high at 100 yards.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 06:19:17 AM »
It sounds like his weapon was sighted in before, but he just noticed the differential between line of sight and line of bore this evening....
 
If your rifle has not had new scope work, and has simply sat since you last shot it, it has probably not changed. Taking it in for bore sighting now is probably not needed, and would require range time anyway...
 
Eeither way....you should not take your gun on opening morning and expect to hunt with it, without knowning how it is sighted.


Remember, if your scopehairs pointed directly at your bore (where the gun is pointing) at extreme close range...you would be shooting extremely high at further distances.....  The whole point of the scope is to cross the line of sight with the line of bore at a given reasonable range...say 200 yards, not 200 inches.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2011, 06:37:14 AM »
ITS SIMPLE, skip out of work, dont hunt opening morning or do what ya gotta do to shoot your gun, i dont know one person that could even think of headn out if he wasnt sure about his weapon, what a sick feeling, a big ole buck steps out and you touch one off and hit the dirt 100ft left and 300 ft high, oh and then the world record buck walks over the hill and someone cracks him, and they get rich cause their new world record is out on tour....... yeah i would find some range time if in was you.... :twocents:
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2011, 06:49:50 AM »
All good advise , you need to shoot the gun atleast at twenty five yards your point of impact should be really close to your zero point , if you hit a nickle at twenty five yards your probilbly just seening paralax , assuming you havnt droppedit or anything since you last shot it .

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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2011, 07:14:32 AM »
If the gentleman sighted in his rifle properly, I don't see the need to worry at all. 
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It sounds like his weapon was sighted in before, but he just noticed the differential between line of sight and line of bore this evening....
Your scope is an inch and a half-2 inches higher than the muzzle as it sits on the rifle. It's not going "make up" that distance in a couple feet. If it were to look level 2' away from the muzzle, think of where it would line up 200 yards away. Assuming the rifle was sighted in properly earlier in the season then roll with it.
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Re: have a huge issue need some advice from seasoned hunters
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2011, 07:15:27 AM »
Imo, to shoot a rifle that you have not verified zero on is selfish and risky with too much possibility for disaster. How do you hold for a shot if you do not know where the bullet goes? What if it is 2' high and you launch one over the ridge into a school of democrats holding a anti hunting rally? Do not shoot that gun untill it is at a Target and if you are shooting 25 yards, then I would not suggest shooting at game much farther than that. Find 100-300 yds and prove zero to yourself......it will make you a better shot, and remove excuses you might make for yourself.

BTW, once dialed in.......just put a piece of tape over the bore, do not clean it.

 


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