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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2011, 08:34:36 PM »
I was going to start a thread with a question I have, but I'll just put it on here since it's related to the topic. Has anybody had success using a doe bleat? I have the Primos "can". I just don't know if it's meant for blacktails or not. I assume it was originally made for whitetail deer hunting. But don't blacktails make the same sounds? I wish I would think of it in the summer or early fall, when I'm out scouting and seeing a lot of deer. I should have tried it on some deer while I had them in view, to see their reaction. I mean I don't know- it might make them run the other way if it's a totally foreign sound.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2011, 08:39:55 PM »
Bobcat,

I know Boyd Iverson talks about using a doe bleat in his book.  I'm not sure the "can" was around when Boyd did this book, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.  I'm carrying one too.  Seems awfully loud to me, so I'll try it muffled somewhat and go from there.  We'll see. 
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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2011, 08:42:38 PM »
everything is made for whitetail.  I have the can and also an estrus bleat/grunt/wheez tube too.  Never got anything with the can, haven't tried the estrus bleat yet, but tonight, the grunt got some movement in the bushes.  Never saw it though

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 08:44:29 PM »
Well last weekend I was using it kind of like people use cow elk calls while hunting elk. I was still hunting through some timber and ever so often I'd get the can out of my pocket and do a bleat, just so if a buck was nearby and heard me walking, he just might stick around for a little longer, thinking I was a deer and not a person. But I really didn't know if I was hurting my chances more than helping. As it turned out a jumped a buck out of his bed at about 25 yards and he ran out of there at about mach 10 and I never heard or saw him again. But of course I still don't know what effect the doe bleat had, if any.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2011, 08:57:09 PM »
I just don't know about these blacktail.  I've not spent as much time around them as many on here but, having 8 fawns born in my backyard on my 1/3 acre in the past 3 years, I've been around them a bit.  I can honestly say, bucks, dows, fawns, I have NEVER heard any of them make a sound, ever.  I just don't know

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2011, 09:05:40 PM »
A few years ago on the last weekend of modern deer a buddy and I were walking down a skid road, when we spot a nice 3x4 blacktail buck feeding around the corner, my buddy takes a shot and misses  :DOH:, the deer runs into some reprod, so my buddy pulls out his Primos hands free buck and doe call and blows a couple of doe estrus bleats and does it again a few minutes later and it brought the buck back out of the reprod and gives him a second shot and connects. I couldn't believe how easily the buck responded to the call even after being shot at.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 09:17:50 PM »
Check this video out. This guy "Proguide" uses the Primos Can call for calling in pretty much every BT he kills. I think you can kill three a year in BC and he has a couple of amazing spots. This video shows him using the can call.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2011, 10:17:54 PM »
Thanks for the video. Yep, sounds exactly like my call. I will have to try it tomorrow. We're going to try some rattling also.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2011, 11:11:46 PM »
I did use it 2 years ago on a mule deer worked for me got a nice 4x4.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2011, 05:47:24 AM »
i dont know about a doe bleat but i did hear a doe on wednesday blow like she smelled me but softer and kept feeding 50 yards from me, then a last years fawn from came to her and they both stayed there for about 1/2 hour and feed off. I dont think they had a clue i was there. gotta go it's raining and light will be here soon.

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2011, 06:13:47 AM »
I would stick with just a grunt tube and still hunt or spot and stalk
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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2011, 06:21:28 AM »
Always have a grunt tube with ya this time of the year...works well ....awesome deer guys ...Now you have me all excited about this morning ....its raining cats and dogs but I am out the door !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2011, 08:13:32 AM »
I have called in blacktail both ways. I few years back I spotted a three point right before extended buck,while watching him I had to wipe off my binos, all I had was a white cloth. As i started wiping the lenses he saw it and started coming my way. He would go about 20 feet, stop and rub a tree, look at me and start again. So opening day of extended I go to my spot and nothing. After glassing for a bit I pull out the horns and start rattling, look across the dray and there he is charging out of the reprod, nostrils flaring and ready to fight. He was no match for the 180 grn. As far as the bleat. Well I had located a bomber buck before the extended season. First day of extended, socked in with fog. Right at daylight I see a deer cross the road into the reprod. I'm thinking it was him but it was to dark and to foggy to tell. So I sit and start the doe bleat. Twenty minutes into it theres enough daylight now to see and the deer I saw didn't come back out. As I go to stand up, a doe was trying to peek around the stump I was leaning on. We both looked like :yike: I think she about jumped out of here skin.
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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2011, 08:35:45 AM »
I called a little fork horn in to me the other night with the Primos "Original" can.  I actually blow throught it instead of flipping it over.  You can make shorter or longer sounds that way.  My 3X4 last year also came in while I was calling but I'm not sure if that was just coincidence or not.  I just try to make it sound a little softer than I would with a WT.  I never really know with these BT's :bash:

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Re: Calling and Ratteling Blacktails
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2011, 08:57:52 AM »
I was going to start a thread with a question I have, but I'll just put it on here since it's related to the topic. Has anybody had success using a doe bleat? I have the Primos "can". I just don't know if it's meant for blacktails or not. I assume it was originally made for whitetail deer hunting. But don't blacktails make the same sounds? I wish I would think of it in the summer or early fall, when I'm out scouting and seeing a lot of deer. I should have tried it on some deer while I had them in view, to see their reaction. I mean I don't know- it might make them run the other way if it's a totally foreign sound.
I was on the primos website last night and was looking and reading about the "can" and they say that it is for whities, muley's AND blackies. So I would assume it would work. I hope so because I'm going to use mine next week while rattlen and grunten.
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