went to vail today, saw 7 deer 2 small bucks 5 does, i watched the 2 bucks for a few minutes and was just ready to move when a truck with a kid in it pulled up, i showed the kid the bucks and the shooting began. 4 shots later and he got the smaller of the 2 bucks, a spike but he was pumped about it . i still have the last 5 days of season so hopefully i can pull something out.